Hat, Camporee Scoring and Menu problems
Ronald Oakes (oakes@PEACH.RTSG.MOT.COM)
Wed, 20 Apr 1994 14:44:13 -0500
Following up an a few of the threads seen today (I decided to save mailers,
and confuse people who use mail readers that can sort by subject, like me).
I grew up in a Troop and Summer Camp where all hats were removed
inside, and non-scout hats were discouraged (although summer camp hats were
considered Scout hats). I have carried this attitude with me ever since (I
was somewhat uncomfortable a year or so ago when we had a "Hat Day" at work
since wanted to take my hat off once I came inside. For an outdoor flag
ceremony, a uniform hat is O.K.
However, I have been unable to convince anyone else that this
should be the case, and have somewhat given up trying. For two years I
insisted that my Scouts remove their hat upon entering the dining hall at
camp, only to have them point out that everyone else had theirs on --
including the program staff. Now the only time I can get hats off of the
heads of some of my Scouts is when we go to church.
My favorite method of scoring for a camporee is the one used by my
old district in New Mexico (The Great Rio Grande District, Great Southwest
Council), at least until '89 when I moved out here. Instead of having
different colored ribbons that indicated "First Place," "Second Place,"
etc., they would have ribbons made up which would read "Award of
Participation with Merit and Honor" done so that "and Honor" and "with
Merit" could be removed with a pair of scissors. This way the district
could continue to have competitions without the problem of how to rank
troops and patrols. No one troop or patrol would ever be the "Top Troop."
Prior to this we had some serious fighting over a traveling trophy and who
really should have had it.
Menus and Religious Duties:
I learned the hard way that it is important to make sure that menus
meet the requirements of the Scouts both for religious and health reasons
(my lessons was from the health one). You also need to know what is in
Last year, I went up to summer camp knowing one of my new Scouts
was allergic to various beans as well as not liking bread. He did, however,
like things like Hamburgers, meat loaf etc. On the first night of camp,
supper was meat loaf. He happily ate up. After supper I went to a leader's
meeting with my SPL and left the rest of the troop in the care of my ASM.
When I got to the opening campfire I found most of my troop, but not the
allergic scout or my ASM. I was told they had gone back to camp because the
scout had an allergy attack. He recovered and was fine by the next morning.
That day at lunch the menu was hamburgers. Again he happily ate. After
lunch we were cleaning the showers, when he had another attack. After
getting him his medication and making sure everything was O.K. I put two
and two together and realized that their was Soy protein in the meat, and
he was allergic to Soy bean, which he had not had before. Since then, I
have been extra careful with menus, and am always on the lookout for meat
that is not meat.
My troop is also mostly Roman Catholic, although I am protestant
(Presbyterian). When I started with the troop they had a tradition of
trying to get back to our how church in time for an 11:00 less formal mass
in the school gym. I was not going to try to change this since I was an
outsider. However, after a year and a half of fighting to tear camp down
quickly, sneaking out of Camporees and other forms of rushing, we had a
campout about 2 hours from our troop site. Because of this, we went to a
mass at a nearby church, and had a more relaxed time. I modified the troop
policy to say that we would only rush back to our home church if we were
close (< 25 minutes), otherwise we would find a church near to the campsite
and go to mass there. This has worked out very well. In fact on a recent
campout where we were close enough to return, we had more problems with
getting the boys to mass then when we are further out. And now I, and the
two protestant (Lutheran) scouts in the troop have taken to attending a
Roman Catholic Mass about one a month.
Ronald B. Oakes
Scoutmaster, Troop 91
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