Jesse E. Cross, III (JCROSS@BEOWULF.MHSL.UAB.EDU)
Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:58:57 CST
On Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:28:48 EDT, Jim Miller writes:
> I think the one point here that has been left alone is that you tried to
> order by phone.
Ordering from the National Distribution Center is my only option.
Our council supply store does not see the need to carry anything but
the things that move very quickly. I dare say that most CE's have
offices bigger than our council supply store!
> I certainly wouldn't want these publications sent out based
> on a phone call. It frustrates me to no end when Councils sell items without
> verifying that people should be allowed to buy them.
First, this is not an award or anything of that nature. This is
information. I became an arrowman in 1976. I still have my original
handbook, from what I have been told it is the combined book. All I
wanted to do was complete my current library! The wall I hit was one
of "Keep everybody mis-informed and they'll never be able to tell
when you're lying!" This kind of pig headed "good ole boy" way of
doing things has got to stop!
> I have bought numerous Eagle Scout knots and items without being
> asked for any paperwork to prove I am entitled to them(in other
Second, this is an award and I agree, there needs to be some
restrictions. The otherside of the coin is: anyone who buys a knot
or other award and wears without having earned it just because he
wants to impress others has missed the whole point of scouting!
> As for OA secrets, I agree presentation of the dues card should be required
> for purchases.
> Since concerned parents, clergy, and others are also allowed to
> view these books (and the actual ceremonies if they wish) I would at
> least expect that concern to be enough to justify an in-person
> visit to the Council office and explain why such items are
WHOA! This is the attitude that gets people into trouble! Even if
you don't have anything to hide, if you act like you do, people
become suspicious. Lets don't give anyone any further cause to
attack Boy Scouting.
As for my desire, it is to be completely informed about an
organization I am a member of. Someone who doesn't want me to know
something has a secret they're hiding!
/s/ Jesse E. Cross, III
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