Re: Council "owns" Lodge ?
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Sun, 27 Feb 1994 00:44:16 EST
Steve Souza <76703.633@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
>> The statement [has been made] that the Council Executive "owns" the lodge.
>> What is the net's opinion on this statement? What is his authority over
>> the lodge? For example, does the council executive have the authority to
>> do away with the lodge for no reason?
>The CE (or whoever made the statement) is correct based on the info I have
>(as a Lodge Advisor). The Lodge "serves" at the "discretion" of the Council
>Executive... is how it's worded from National.
...and Steve's right on the nose. The Order of the Arrow, the
Explorer Presidents/Officer's Associations and (in those that have
them still) National Eagle Scout Association Chapters are ALL
OPTIONAL programs, and exist ONLY at the discretion ("will") of the
Council Scout Executive. Why? Because only he can apportion parts of
the Council's budget to cover expenses relating to the operation of
those OPTIONAL programs. In plain english, this is one area that he
can tailor to suit his personal (and professional) desires and those
of "key Scouters in the local Council".
>Which means if the CE doesn't want a Lodge for the Council, you don't get
>one... period. The Council is not _required_ to have a Lodge, and in fact
>there are some who don't have them for just that reason.
The question is of money and support. Look at the OA, EPA/EPO, and
NESA chapters/lodges as you would a sports team or a debate team at
the local high school. Having them puts you on a par with other
schools...you get to compete, students (Scouts) get to travel, and if
they do well, they bring back honors to your school. If they don't do
well, or they expend more funds than what comes into the program, then
they are "loss leaders" and an incoming administrator concerned about
the "bottom line", simply gets rid of those programs (and people) that
are not producing.
In a like way, the Council Scout Executive's "report card" (his
evaluation from the Regional Area Director) is heavily dependent on
three major factors: units, members and finance. If he has a DE or
another professional out there concrentrating all of his or her
efforts on the OA or the NESA, and there's nothing to show for that
effort (i.e., not being a host lodge for a conclave (a conclave is a
state or area meeting of the Order of the Arrow Lodges in a given
location happening once or twice a year) or bringing home trophies or
in the case of NESA or EPO, producing new units or new members, then
his or her days as that advisor is numbered....and if it's on a slide,
then the lodge or chapter's days are numbered.
New realities of life in the Scoutin' 90s!
Settummanque!@ Off to bed...long day in the morn!
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