Re: Liability Suits
Don Izard (IZARD@UBVM.BITNET)
Mon, 21 Feb 1994 13:00:20 EST
To Mike and others: The following may be of little REAL help once a
Scout is injured! Take a case from our council! Scouts when to
A COUNTRY PARK for a winter outing. In this case the scout's
own father was one of the parents! The scouts found that the sled
hill was closed because of ICE conditions!! BUT, one scout decided
to cross past the closed sign and see for himself. Result was
a broken neck and partial paralysis! Remember, his own father
was at the event! HOWEVER, the family WON a multi-million settlement!
BSA, the scout master and the the county were all named in the suit.
I do not know what else the leader could have done to stop the scout.
I another case SCOUTS created a HUMAN catapult from PIONEERING rope
and poles etc. Leaders did not realize what was being built until
a young scout flew threw the air, and broke his arm, collar bone
an seperated his sholder. Again, leaders and BSA were named in the
suit, and LOST.
Sure, you can try to inform parents, and also the scouts! However
bottom line is that IF YOU ARE IN A UNIT LEADER position, or even
resposible for an activity, you better carry at least $1 million
in personal and/or homeowners liabiltiy! SCOUTS will find a way
to BEND the rules and break the scouts!
Don Izard, scouter
On Mon, 21 Feb 1994 09:33:56 CST Settummanque, the blackeagle said:
>Rick's posting reminds me to pass along a couple of other notes:
>First, there IS a listing of PROHIBITED EVENTS during Scouting events.
>TACKLE FOOTBALL IS ONE OF THEM. It says so in the current "Guide to Safe
>Scouting", BSA #10-212 (page 21, for those *really* interested!). Check
>*your* local Council on the status of "flag football"...in some local
>Councils, it's permitted; in others, it's NOT.
>Make SURE that the YOUTH MEMBERS IN YOUR UNIT KNOW what's permitted and
>what's not. A simple "Hey guys, we can't do that in Scouts!", is NOT
>enough....one of the things that the adult advisors COULD have done was
>to send HOME (mail to parents) a copy of the Guide with a cover letter
>stating "While we CANNOT be with your children/young adults 24/7, we
>want you to be aware that the BSA does NOT approve of nor will pay ANY
>insurance claims against, ANY of the activities listed here. If your
>son or daughter participates in those (or similiar) activities during
>our activities, it is with his or her FULL KNOWLEDGE that such activities
>are prohibited and it is NOT a part of our unit's official activities or
>events". (no, the youth members CANNOT sign a waiver...they are underage, for
>the most part).
>(yes, the Guide to Safe Scouting can and the BSA recommends that it should
>be reproduced and sent to parents or others in the unit as part of a "welcome
>Finally, this reminds us all of the need to insure that there's enough
>PROGRAM going on so that youth won't be too bored. While we cannot keep
>youth members from "doing their own things" (and that's something that SHOULD
>be promoted, especially when they can't or won't do things at home!), we
>CAN control to a level when and under what circumstances those "things"
>happen, and in what form.
>Mike L. Walton
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City