Re: Question about the BSA Troop Operations Plan
GS-12 Daniel R. Mott Mr (mott@OODIS01.HILL.AF.MIL)
Thu, 10 Feb 1994 07:12:37 -0700
In your message of 9 Feb 1994 at 2147 MST, you write:
> One way, which *may be* the way we'll eventually head, is a transitional
> program similar to the Blazer Program in LDS units. In this way, new 11
> year-old Scouts would get concentrated instruction before going to the Patrol
> of their choice when they turn 12. Comments??
My impression when national came out with this program with the New
Scout patrol, was that they were adopting something similiar to what
the LDS units practice with having an Assitant Scoutmaster over the 11
The LDS situation is different in one sense, all sponsoring units have
a cub pack, so you don't normally since cubs coming into the scouts
>from other units and unless they were sponsored by someone else.
I am currently an assitant scoutmaster with an LDS unit that works
with the 11 year olds. I also still do some things on a district
level as well.
They are pros and cons to the 11 year old patrol and the way the LDS
units run it with the "Blazers". Number one you have to have a good
adult leader. You need to have a plan and work that plan. I seen
situations where the program has worked really well and times where
Generally, the times where it hasn't has been usually a problem with
adequate adult leadership, lack of planning, training etc.
When it does work, you have boys who are generally interested in the
program, who have the basics of scouting, which helps out the
Generally in the LDS units they stay in the New Scout patrol until
they are 12. And for the most part they work on the rank advancements
up to First Class, though currently some of my boys are also attending
a District Merit Badge PowWow where they are getting information on
three merit badges on three Saturday mornings.
I have seen LDS 11 year old patrols where they keep the same patrol
name from year to year and the boys add totems to the flag as they
come in. the assistant scoutmaster with the 11 year olds is supposed
to work closely with the pack, attend graduations, and get to know the
boys that are coming into the patrol.
Due to the number of LDS sponsored units in our area, we have a
member of the Boy Scout Roundtable staff who meets directly with the
Assistant Scoutmasters who are "Blazer" (11 year old) leaders giving
them ideas and helping them with their problems.
I don't have all the answers, I am still working to make things better
with my group and the 11 years I work with. I acn say though that they
did very well in the Klondike Camp that we went to last month and beat
the older scouts in a couple of games.
Great Salt Lake Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City