Kids running wild
Pete Tamas (GNOME@TEMPLEVM.BITNET)
Thu, 16 Dec 1993 23:05:53 EST
Let's not forget that B-P was criticised (sp?) for letting kids
run wild in the woods and for not expecting them to behave a gentlemen
In my experience (Hungarian scouts in the US) people who have stopped
scouting as teenagers and come back as leaders in their 40s because
their kids are 10+ years old forget this. They also tend to be over-
protective and forget the merits of camping.
In my last troop, I had a great deal of problems from a group of
parents. One of them became my opposite number (the troops tend to
be one boy and one girl troop that work together on many but
certainly not all activities). My every plan to take the kids camping
where argued against that the kids "were not ready" and that I did
not understand kids. I decided that this was no longer scouting and
resigned so I could concentrate on organizing regional activities.
Many people who do not work with kids and then become parents are
surprised out how challenging it is to be a parent and assume that
anyone without kids is just as much in the dark as they were.
In any event, the troop exists in name only (frankly I would have
preferred it succeeded) primarily because the kids did not have
fun. In fact, the leaders had forbade the kids to go to summer
camp because they "were not good enough."
The reason kids have lots of energy and are noisy is because that
is what they need to learn what they need to learn. Just because
young adults who are scouts tend to make good soldiers (in terms
of camping and orienteering skills) that does not mean we are
turning out little soldiers.
Finally, parents are often too embaressed that their kids are too
restless to notice that they are no different than the other kids.
Gnome@VM.Temple.edu or TempleVM.bitnet
On Thu, 16 Dec 1993 11:48:27 PST Marc Godbout said:
> I read a posting on rec.scouting today from Steve Tobin (I think he's
> on this list, too) where he responds to a Webelos leader about
> Troop visits. He says, "Don't expect quiet and orderliness. I
> have found a certain amount of chaos is almost a requirement for a
> good troop meeting. Adults like order and quiet, not boys." Well,
> I was thrilled to find out my troop is not the only one. But it
> got me thinking - How many others out there share this experience.
> Our former SM (I posted my problems with him earlier) wants to
> return to the days of his booming "Drill Intructor Voice (tm)" to
> restore order in the troop and I've had to defend the boy-run
> concept for two Committee meetings in a row. He wasn't at the last
> one, thank Whomever :-). He's actually grilled some boys during
> BOR about how they like the "new" Troop Meeting format. My wife
> got the impression he was fishing for some ammo to back his ideas
> up. He came up dry, by the way.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City