Lynn McKee (Lynn=McKee%NASE%NA=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM)
Fri, 19 Nov 1993 14:53:21 CST
Several thoughts on yesterday's (now 2 days ago) postings:
Steve Tobin <srtobin@MMM.COM> writes:
> Exploring is virtually non-existant.
I agree. Especially High Adventure Posts. They event took away our
official uniforms. Try explaining that to a bunch of 15 & 16 year olds.
<Wise Advisor> It is very important for us to wear our uniforms to [some event]
<Young Explorer> Then why did the BSA quit making them?
<Red Faced Advisor> Uhhmmm ....
One upside, I guess we could push for more Explorers in Films and TV
since there is no official uniform! ;) Except of course from my friends
in whites (Sea Explorers).
Kathie Cerveny <kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU> writes:
>another thought would be that our 10 year push on one person, one hat
>(position) MIGHT be working.
I think our district missed this memo. I keep getting asked if I would
like MORE hats! ;) The upside of this is I'm learning to say ... "no".
I think that's the word. ;)
RE: Peer pressure, New Scout Program, et. al.
As a survivor of the "new" program of the '70s, I am gun-shy of "new" programs.
Fortunately, many of the SM the council of my youth (Buffalo Trails in West
Texas) decided that hiking and camping were still important
so our program did not change too much.
Here we (district committee hat) have seen mixed results with the New Boy
Patrol. For Example, one of our oldest and largest troops has dwindled greatly
using this, and is reverting back to assimilating new boys into
existing patrols. But other (younger) troops have been doing well with it.
In either case, hazing should be delt with by the PLC (hopefully) or SM swiftly.
It is unaceptable.
All in all, I'm not a big fan based on my memories of working with Keith
Call my first PL, who took the time to teach us skills in our in our
non-troop-meeting patrol meetings. He made Eagle and so did six others in
that patrol over the next few years, including one who came in after Kieth
had moved away. That sort of tradition you can't generate, by creating new
patrols all of the time. (Oops. It looks like I'm on my soapbox.)
I think the discussion really needs to focus more on retention not just
the "new" program. So what do y'all (you all) do to keeps members in your
From what I've seen, the only common thread between units that keep growing are:
youth leadership and and active outdoor program. Those are my two main goals
for my post.
> Scouting isn't Cool
I don't remember who brought it up, but I have seen it, and have vauge memories
of this from my youth. Somewhere about Jr High, Scouting stops being cool, but
if you can make it to High School at some point it becomes
OK again. I thought it was just getting my Eagle that helpped, but I've noticed
that my Explorers aren't embarressed by it, and most of them were never in the
BSA before. In fact, some of the young
ladies love to brag about being "Boy Scouts"! ;)
Oh well, I'd better get back to my paying job.
Eagle Scout '78
Advisor, Post 555 Houston, TX
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City