Re: The Bobcat
Settummanque, the blackeagle (waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU)
Thu, 11 Nov 1993 11:23:57 CDT
Jim Sleezer <JHS8%OSUVM1.BITNET@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> writes:
>On Thu, 11 Nov 1993 09:50:32 -0500 Robert M. Gross said:
>>It may not say that in the literature now, but I think it does on older books.
>>It's never been a requirement that I know of, just a tradition dating from
>>the days when Scouts had metal rank pins for wearing on "civilian"
>>clothes. The tradition was to put the pin on upside down each day, until
>>you had done your Good Turn, the give the badge a "Good Turn."
Nope. I've looked in all of the Cub Scouting references that goes back
to 1940, and cannot find a single reference to "turning a kid upside
down to pin" the Bobcat pin on his shirt.
>I have seen a reference to pinning a tenderfoot badge on upside down and
>turning it over when you have done a good turn. I do not recall ever seeing
>a reference to pinning a bobcat badge on upside down--I suspect it is a
>part of the "Jr. Scout" program ;-) As I recall, the only badge intended
>for "civilian" wear by the boy was the old round bobcat pin which was, at one
>time, only worn on civilian clothing. After you got the bobcat, you could get
>your uniform but not wear the pin on it! (Heavily violated regulation!)
Nope, that's incorrect. The Bobcat Badge (which that's what the pin
was and still is...the first Badge of a Cub Scout!) was officially
worn on the field uniform of a Cub Scout. It was to be worn centered
on the left pocket of the uniform, right side up.
It was removed when you earned your Wolf badge.
When we changed to the full-color Bobcat, Wolf, Bear and WEBELOS
badges, the Bobcat badge remained centered on the left pocket but
moved up some to create the starting of the "Cub Scout Diamond".
At that time, either the metal Bobcat pin or the cloth Bobcat patch
could be worn. Now, the Bobcat pin is more a ceremonial piece, with
the actual patch to be worn on the uniform and the pin worn in
"civilian times". BTW, I still have mine (usually sits here on my
desk, but it's in a box with some other Scouting pins).
>I do not recall seeing anywhere in the literature that a boy should be turned
>upside down when he got his bobcat (or tenderfoot). In fact, I never saw it
>happen until three years ago. It took me by surprise -- seemed rather
>disruptive since they stopped everything to bring out a couple of gym mats in
>case someone got dropped -- then they had to put them away (while the audience
Kinda made you wonder if the "traveling Wallendas" would make a
surprise appearance, right???
Mike L. Walton
holder of the Bobcat.....
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