Re: camporee experiences
Hilding Holroyd (hilding@CATFISH.OCPT.CCUR.COM)
Mon, 25 Oct 1993 11:37:30 -0500
> I'm happy to report that my all new troop made it through the camporee
> with flying colors. ...
> The kids loved the skill stations. Although they are obviously lacking
> in scout skills so far, they attacked the problems with enthusiasm and
> ingenuity and managed to complete them all....
> One of the most positive aspects of the experience, however, was that
> we gained respect from the rest of the troops there. As the "new troop
> in town", we weren't expected to be or do much, but they found out that
> we were as for real as anyone else. I got LOTS of compliments from the
> station leaders for the attitudes and attention the kids displayed. I
> think that helped my credibility as the leader as much as it did for the
> kids as a troop.
Great job, Jim. I had a similar experience with my new troop, too.
I had just transferred to a troop that is 1 year old. 4 boys+3 leaders
went to the district camporee. (and guess where we had to camp ...
right next to my [I was SM] old troop who had ~13 boys+6leaders).
The sponsor troop ran things a little different. To give everyone an
equal chance at the stations, they "randomized" all the boys into
new patrols for the weekend. Thus each boy was in a patrol with 7 others
he did not know, various ages, various ranks. The patrol my son was in
happened to have 3 older scouts and 4 "newer" scouts and they took
first place for the patrol competitions. Then all the points each scout
earned were added together for the troops. My new troop, with 4 boys
[1 2nd class, 1 Tenderfoot, 2 Scout] TOOK FIRST OVERALL!! It was SO great.
Great for them, that is (I guess you should read gloat...gloat, there, too.
My old troop did not even place.) I was really proud of the job they did.
> One problem I hope the wisdom of this group can help with. One kid,
> the oldest chronologically but biggest baby otherwise, got VERY
> homesick and kept everyone else awake both nights crying. I don't mean
> whimpering or sobbing quietly, I mean SHREIKING at the top of his
> lungs "I'M SICK AND I WANT TO GO HOME". The first night we FINALLY
> got him calmed down and asleep, but he kept waking up and disturbing
> all the other kids. The second night he was worse, so I ended up
> driving him home around midnight. Talking and reasoning with him didn't
> work, threats (If you can't be quiet, we'll have to move you off in a
> tent by yourself), didn't work; he was determined to get his way and
> go home. I decided that rather than ruin the weekend for everyone else,
> I'd give in. ((He's an only child and extremely pampered....He screams
> at home to get his way and it works)). On the way home, he admitted
> that he wasn't really sick, but he started coughing when his mother
> opened the door (first cough all weekend), so she believes he had a
> cold and needed to come home for treatment. He understands that his
> dad needs to come along on the next campout since "it will be his turn
> as a parent to help us". So how do you handle homesick boys?? Most kids
> his age wouldn't mind crying in front of others if they were really hurt,
> but would rather have a foot cut off than to make such a scene just because
> they missed mom (this was one thing he yelled: I WANT MY MOMMY). I don't
> want to lose him because I think he needs the program, but I can't have
> him making everyone else miserable either. Ideas??
> Jim Holman, I used to be a Bear
Jim, was this guy really homesick? I'm not so sure that I would define it
that way. Could there have been something else? (picked on? something
going on at home he was missing?, etc.) I think that I might have bundled
him off the first night. Then as the next campout came around, I would
keep at him to sign up to go and make sure his dad came too. If there was
a phone near, I would have called his folks and asked if the dad could
have come out to spend the night. And if not, ask them for advice on how
to handle the problem. At the risk of sounding crass, I might have even
asked them to come and get him. But that might loose him to the program.
No one wants to be known as the one whose "mommy" had to come and get him.
Frankly, I really believe that there is more to this one than homesick.
Hilding Holroyd Eagle Class '68
Jersey Shore Council O.A.: Japeechin Lodge (Brotherhood)
Whispering Pine District "I used to be a FOX!!" NE-IV-54
Adv. Chairman, Troop 250 31 year veteran and still going ..
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