Re: PL green bars
Michael Rogero Brown (michaelb@SUNRISE.CSE.FAU.EDU)
Tue, 28 Sep 1993 10:49:03 EDT
> Well, I wrote this:
> > > Getting back to Green Bar Bill, he was a very good and dedicated scouter.
> > > His nickname came, of course, from the two green bars that B.-P. first
> > > used as the Patrol Leader's badge. Incidentally, in Italy this is still
> > > the case (in all of the Assoc., I think), while the BSA dropped them when
> > > they moved to a more complicated system to make room for the Senior PL,
> > > the Asst. SPL, the PL and the APL. Further explanations should be asked
> > > to some active member of the BSA, since I fear that my information may be
> > > out of date.
> And Michael Rogero Brown wrote:
> > Not just out of date, but totally wrong. The BSA has ALWAYS used the 2 bars
> > for Patrol Leader.In the 70's, the office badge for PLs had a large tenderfo
> > badge on 2 silver bars. In 1990, they went back to the older style, so that
> > the PL patch has 2 green bars again with no tenderfoot emblem on them.
> Whoops! Seems like I really fouled up this time. In fact I did know that the
> BSA's PL badge had two bars on it, back in 1985 when I was in the US, but
> what I really meant was that they weren't green...
You're right on the point that they weren`t green. And because of the BIG
Tenderfoot emblem, they were a bit obsured. You had to look that the PL had
2 silver bars, the APL had 1 gold bar, the SPL had 3 silver bars & the ASPL
had 2 1/2 gold bars.
> Anyways, thanx to Michael for righting things up. And, besides, I'm glad that
> the BSA went back to the old emblem - it really is one of the few Scout
> traditions that are true almost worldwide. Now, don't flame me, but I really
> felt that the "'70's style" badge was a little too loud, with the BSA emblem
> on top of the bars almost covering them...
> I myself prefer a more conservtive approach to badges, putting on uniforms
> only the ones that are really required (of course respecting the national
> association's rules!) and by taking off all temporary badges as soon as
> possible. Obviously this is my own humble opinion.
No flaming, because I agree with you. I LIKE the newer office insignia. They
aren't as `loud' as the `70`s style' and are pretty nice. I know that the BSA
uniforms are criticized by some as too showy. While I like to wear all patches
I`m entitled to, I dislike it when people go overboard (like double rows of
Quality Unit patchs when we all know you`re only to wear one).
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