Re: Ethics of Patch Trading
Ernest R. Spradling, P.E. (freemason@AOL.COM)
Thu, 23 Sep 1993 20:57:12 EDT
Don't you hate it when your train of thought gets derailed? Let's see if I
can start over again.
I heard that National is planning to prohibit visitors to the next Jambo.
Further, no trading will be allowed, by ANYONE, within the Jambo site.
Neither will they allow a TOR outside the gate, because travel outside during
the Jambo will be prevented.
I also heard that National is getting ready to move into the patch regulation
business on a full-time basis by requiring all OA lodge, Council and Camporee
patches come through Irving TX. I guess they want to make sure they make
their nut (i have seen some of the patches that National pushed on us in the
70's, and they were terrible).
I do not necessarily agree with adults trading with youth... there are some
youth out there who are as unscrupulous as some of the adult traders (There
is one kid in my lodge here with whom I refuse to trade). Neither would I
want to take advantage of someone, whether they be adult OR kid.
Mind, I am not a member of ASTA (American Scout Traders Association), nor
NSCS (National Scouting Collectors Society), nor am I lobbying for them. I
believe that Don I was right in staying near his son - his son should have
said either Dad stays or the trading is over with that individual. If the
trader, or the "patch police", had a problem with that, maybe a friendly chat
with the Jambo Commissioner and/or Professional staff would have been the
If National wants to play "patch police," then they had better be prepared to
answer queries such as Don I's son's, and pronto. IMHO, ignoring honest
queries is unconscionable, and they should get off their duffs to get an
I agree that either, or both, of those groups are better equipped to police
the traders, and they should. National should let them have a shot at it,
rather than just prohibiting it. In addition, members of those groups should
be prepared to giving colletor's clinics within their own Councils and OA
Lodges, so that kids, and adults, will be able to get into the hobby better
equipped against getting burned by dishonest people.
Now, on to more pleasant things: remember the Scoutmaster of the Troop I told
you about last month? he just completed his Eagle project Monday - one day
before his 18th B'Day. Goes to final Eagle Board next month (missed this
month's). His was a story of perserverence in the face of adversity, and I
am happy for him.
Randy Spradling, P.E.
Assistant District Commissioner Treasure Coast District, Gulfstream Council
(FL) Aal-Pa-Tah #237
Eagle Scout (1971)
Vigil Honor (1974)(Thal-Coo-Zyo #457) (Sukeu Woapalanne-Black Eagle)
Life Member Alpha Phi Omega Mu Tau Chapter (WV Tech)(Spring 1975)
Hope to be a critter soon.
(To know oneself is the ultimate form of aggression)
(Calvin: I let my mind wander and now I can't find it.)
(Mom: And I thought you had lost it years ago.)
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