Re: Registering MB Counselors
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Thu, 26 Aug 1993 15:30:38 CDT
Don Izard <IZARD@UBVM.BITNET> writes:
> IN reply to PAUL:
>1) In a majority of school districts, and TOWN or community sports
> programs, everyone in contact with YOUTH is going to some kind of
> YOUTH protection training, at least in this area of Western NY.
> My wife, who is a teacher and associated with scouting via the
> troop committee, and I as a town coach, have been to a combined
> 26 hours of YPP training classes, seminars, presentations etc., in
> the past year! Perhaps that is why the EXEMPTIONS? The EXEMPTED
> people should or will have to go to YPP that is in MOST cases MORE
> detailed and extensive than what BSA is currently providing.
Let me add here that the true reason that those persons are exempted
is because of their reporting procedure...if a policeman, for
instance, suspects a child is being abused, he or she MUST report it
here in Kentucky or hand over his or her badge. Same goes for our
teachers, our fire personnel and our EMT persons. This is unlike the
BSA's procedure, which in many cases, leaves it to the Scout/Council
Executive or whomever he or she appoints to report the case to the
appropriate organization (in Kentucky, its's the Department of Social
Services' Child Enforcement Division). This may happen quickly or
after a through investigation done within the local Council.
So, you can see where there may be a conflict of interest between a
policeman whom is the Scoutmaster of a unit and as a uniformed
officer of the city and state.
As far as university personnel, here at Western, many of the
departments and their student life department have been doing
WEEK-LONG "protection and prevention" programs.
> 2) As far as additional registration as a MBC. . . HOW else can the
> council maintain any kind of list of "authorized/certified" MBC's?
> That was the basis for my orginal inquiry into the entire question.
> IE> IF all MBC's are required to be regsitered in some way with
> BSA, BSA should be able to produces a current UP TO DATE list of
> LIVING certified councelors, with current phone numbers etc.
> Granted IF you only want to council those is your own troop, your
> name should NOT be included on the council wide list, but that
> should NOT be a *major* problem with the use of a computerised system.
It's not...if the Council uses the BSA's membership control software.
The Registrar or even the Council staff person for advancement can
print out a record of ALL MB counselors living in Greenwood, of all
MBCs living in Warren County, of ALL MB counselors in the local
Council as of a certain date.
And it's THESE listings that volunteer District Advancement chairs, as
Chris pointed out, that does the cross-checking between what's on the
card (or paper...this Council uses a two-part sheet of paper as the
Merit Badge Application) and what SHOULD be on the card.
> I think that as of TODAY, that there are many Merit badges signed off
> be people that are NOT on any official list! The new registration
> will help to address both problems, 1) making sure the MBC's have
> the required YPP knowlege and/or training AND 2) making sure the
> SIGNATURES of MB cards, belong to a) living and b) properly certified
> merit badge councilors! If you don't have the time to complete the
> forms, I would question your total commitment to scouting and the
> motive for being a scout leader etc.
It's funny how you mention LIVING MB Counselors, Don....there's a
whole LOT of MB Counselors that have "sprung back to life" to sign yet
another card for Swimming, or Personal Fitness, or Citizenship in the
World for a Scout to earn Eagle by. This process will, as you
stated, take care of both problems.
> HOW long does it really take to fill out a SECOND copy of the form?
Approproxiamely twelve to fifteen minutes (assumming that you have to
remember where you'd lived in the past five years, that you have to
fish out your wallet to get your social security and drivers' license
numbers, and assumming that you read each question carefully and
Ten if you have practised reading the captions in some television
commercials and if you haven't lost your pen. This also assumes that
your drivers' license and SSN are similiar and that you can recall at
least half of it off the top of your head.
Four if you can speedread, have filled one out before and know what it
is we are asking of you, and if your signature looks vaguely like one
of the Founding Fathers on the Declaration of Independence.
One if you ignore the questions and sign at the bottom of the form.
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