STEVE BITTNER 708982-4973 (bittner@SKCLA.MONSANTO.COM)
Thu, 26 Aug 1993 12:33:04 -0500
> I recently read in Scouting Magazine that in order to go on a water
>trip now you do not need a lifeguard. Whats giong on in BSA? Are they just
>looking for more lawsuits to have Boy Scouts dragged through the mud some
> I always thought that part of Safe Swim Defense and Safety Afloat was
>to have proper supervision. Doesnt this mean a lifeguard?
> I would really like to know how others of you feel about BSA saying
>it is ok to take a bunch of boys into the water without haveing anyone there
>who is trained to save them.
Chris Haggerty writes:
>Finding people with BSA Lifeguard or Red Cross Life Guarding who are
>willing to go camping with your troop is very hard.
>The bottom line, many units decided to go do their aquatic activity without
>the qualified supervision, because they could not find it.
>You can see the problem, qualified supervision is very hard to come by as
>defined so the units go with out it. What I would prefer to see is that
>BSA require something like the Emergency Water Safety Course for the Adult.
> (This is a Red Cross Course nine hours in length and most adults can do
>all the requirements.)
I'm currently setting up a district camporee where we will have canoe
races. I can contest to the problem of finding qualified leadership to
supervise such an event. If we had started the planning proccess with
requirements for life guards most likely we would not have proceeded.
Committee's avoid hard decisions. We are currently trying to find a
qualified individual to teach Safety Afloat and Safe Swim Defense. Finding
these people at the council and district level can be a problem.
Does anyone know if an individual in the northern Illinois area that is
qualified to teach these courses?
How many years (year) is this training good for?
The other thing to keep in mind is that having many (more than 1) adults
that understand the water safety requirements maybe more
important than having one expert. We hold a canoe trip every year
that goes down a relatively fast (for the midwest) stream. 15 canoes can
get spread out real fast in such a stream and having a qualified life
guard 100 yards ahead is less important than knowledgable adult supervision
through out the crews.
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