Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:31:31 CDT
"Jessica A. Ryan" (my honies) <RYANPA@WKUVX1.BITNET> writes:
>Just finished clearing the last of 830+ messages which collected while
>we were at the Jamboree and was gonna put this message off until
>tonight, until I read Carol's posting. Carol, BOY CAN I
>RELATE...before that rain, I was having a good hair day...and Mike
>said I looked like a drowned rat too...(those men are conspiring and I
We don't conspire....you did look kind of funny with that large
umbrella and STILL got wet! hehehe
Our trip actually started on late Tuesday night, after we had said
goodbye to my three kids and having them to hug "Jessi" once more
before we left. Jessiann's mom was waiting dinner for us in Paris
(right outside of Lexington, KY) and we had fried chicken and chips to
take with us...and she made this LARGE pot of coffee for someone
*hehe* to have.
We drove four hours to Charleston and stayed at a Mircotel hotel.
Jessiann was really glad to stop...we have had car problems and every
40-50 miles she would ask "is the light (the yellow "check engine
After we rested up, we went into town to check where the Capitol was
for our visit with Chris and Luz on Sunday, and then drove to the
Council office. The Council in Charleston recently ate three smaller
councils to its south, making it the largest Council in the state by
far! Jessiann had never been in a Council office before, so the trip
was really educational for her....and she found lots of BSA materials
as she stated that she could use for classes during her student
teaching period and during this coming fall (her methods block).
I found some patches to trade and a pair of pants to wear at the
We took a detour off of the Interstate...and ended up back in Bowling
Green...Maryland, that is...that was really neat, because we not only
didn't expect another Bowling Green, but also the Potomac Council
of the BSA was there...three miles off of the Interstate...and then,
*long sigh* a REAL GERMAN RESTURANT....(and I do mean REAL!!!) just a
block from the Council offices. We made the "mistake" of getting
something to eat at McDonalds before we left the Interstate, so dinner
at the pleasant smelling place was not to be...this time....
Going through the mountains was okay...I don't think the car really
liked it, because we did eat up a little transmission fluid and some
oil on the trip...but we did pass by a Scout Camp and some Scouts
coming to a store on the way... We got back on the Interstate three
hours later, and saw the sign on I-66: Washington 70 Fredricksburg
32. We were getting close!!
We arrived in Fredricksburg and called our hosts to get clearer
directions...and found out that we missed the opening show that
evening...he gave us directions to Colonial Beach, VA (about 20
minutes from the Jamboree site at Fort A.P. Hill) and on the way there
saw this black kid dancing to his own inner music...he almost got run
Our host was Jack Mortimer, a member of the Rec.Scouting list and a
Master Mason (nope, I'm not a Mason...)...he was really great and we
talked for about a hour before we all conked out...his son told us
about the Opening show and how great it was....
In the morning, we ate at a local diner (and yes, I had a Scout shirt
on and yes, people were looking...I couldn't tell if they were looking
at the colorful patches on the old shirt or the black guy and the
white woman...or both) *giggle*. The food was GREAT and Jessiann spent
the time reminding me "Now Mike, we have to get back now...so don't go
crazy with the patches and things at the Jamboree".
Famous last words. *laughter*
>Thursday was GREAT!!! It was fun walking around and seeing all the
>exhibits and talking to people...and of course getting stopped by
>every other Scout/Scouter with comments like "that's a cool council
>strip, got any more?!" to Mike's college Scouter CSP...the different
>booths set up by the various churches was nice and we met the nicest
>Scouter who was a member of the Association of Christian
>Magicians...he showed us some really neat card tricks...and the NASA
>exhibit showing the space station was also good. I kept wanting to
>push some of the panel buttons and say, "beam me up..." *laugh*
Jessiann gave me a hard time about my shirt......
[Sidebar: The shirt I was wearing was not the shirt I planned on
wearing. The week before, I tried on all of my shirts and realized
that I have gained too much to squeeze into the small shirts anymore.
If you can wear a men's size small, I have several shirts that I would
like to trade or sell....the shirt that I wore this morning was a 1957
collarless short-sleeved wool leader's shirt that someone got at a
flea market and gave to me for making a speech at his Troop's Court of
Honor. I spent the day before we left and the night before we went
sewing on the patches from the old Explorer shirt to this shirt to
wear. Kathie, it would have NOT passed your uniform inspection! ]
.....and the fact that "I looked like a Christmas tree". So in the
National Exhibits area, I found Father Neal Dow, whom was the national
representative of the Episcopal ("It's an anagram for Pespi Cola and
we have a theme song too.....", he said...*hehehe* He was wearing the
same number of square knots as I was, nine.
He stated to both of us "....everything that I have earned...or
received...is important to me, don't you think?"
Good answer, Father Dow....
We also saw the Sea Exploring exhibit (looking for Bruce Johnson, whom
went off to do his laundry...) and talked with the Southern Region's
Commodore (dressed in a hawaiian shirt with BSA patches on it...it's
not official, but you can't miss him!!!) and gave my apologies for not
being able to attend the Seabadge reunion....Jessiannsaw the "Southern
Drawl" interpreter strip and had to have one....he took my name and
address and will be sending me one and a better looking Seabadge
We then went to the Hometown News area and got the bum's
rush...Jessiann stated that "That man in there was rude...something
about Mike not being available and that he could not be disturbed..."
So, being the military man I am, I went in the restricted area, asked
for Mike, and lo and behold, not only was he not busy, he had his feet
propped up on the desk!!
He took us on the "grand tour" and as Jessica stated, he's VERY proud
of the operation and how it came together in a short time.....I also
reanquained myself with Sheldon Dick's son Jason, whom is attending
college stateside and the last time I saw him, was running JLT in the
I also met the man that designed the Crest of Leadership for Green
Bar Bill (Hillcourt) and after we stopped traffic (he was a traffic
officer at the intersection of A.P. Hill Road and Thomas Road...), we
exchanged addresses and I gave him one of the EKU Crests that I had...
He's sending me something special (he wouldn't say, but he wanted me
to make sure that someone was home all of next week when the mail's
delivered....Scouters are REALLY GREAT!!)
We spent the lunchtime at Trading Post A, getting items...and whom
spent more monies than the other??? Well...technically, me...but....
Jessiann was mad...she stood in line only to find out that at the
Jamboree, food's purchased with tickets, not money....and there was
another line for the tickets....so, while she was ranting about "if
they would have people whom could count money....", I went and bought
ten dollars worth of tickets and came back for my coffee and her cola.
While in line, I met this Troop that came down from New Orleans...the
ENTIRE TROOP....just to visit the Jamboree....we exchanged names and
addresses, took pictures (one 8x10 glossy is going to my mother, whom
insists that there are "no Blacks in Scouting") and stood around.
We spent the rest of the afternoon walking up Thomas Road, trading
patches and meeting new people....one Scout immediately ticked off all
of the square knots I was wearing...really really impressive. He
stopped me to read them to his friend. So after I could find them, I
gave him two INTERCAMP contingent patches and a couple of CSPs...and
you know what...he refused them at first!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah...but he took them after I told him that not only was I impressed
with his knowledge, I was impressed by his action of Scout courtesy.
I gave him my address and told him that if he EVER needed a
recommendation letter, to please write me and let me know!
Jessiann looked at him and later told me "There's something to this
Scouting after all, isn't there??"
We went to eat pizza at a local resturant and then to buy the cola and
ice for the meeting that evening....no coffee...I forgot to get the
pound of coffee....
>The highlight, by far, was meeting at the Scouts-L/Rec.scouting
>meeting...We had a great time trashing Rec.scouting and piling on the
>praise for this list. Everyone was disappointed that we couldn't meet
>Kathie, Carol, Chris Haggerty, and the others who couldn't attend for
>various reasons...I must say, my predictions were fairly close...I
>knew Don Izard would be wacky *grin* and he still owes me a "wild"
>dance...Bruce, serious, but funny...Frank Bates (I won't say what
>celebrity he looks like)...Pab (cute as a button) and weird just like
>Don...Mike Schatzberg (he LOVES his staff assignment at Jambo) and
>he's funny with one of those poker faces, so that sometimes it's hard
>to tell if he's joking or not...Paul who's also hilarious...and sooooo
>many others...It was a blast guys!! We've got to do it again...and
>next time, I don't want to be the ONLY woman there...Anyways, we got
>to talk about several newer issues and see Ches Martin's latest
>project (good job by the way, Ches)...and of course, Mike went
>on-and-on about lots of stuff...he had a GREAT time too...it was hard
>to leave, you guys, it REALLY was...
I second that feeling....I wanted to stay, but our hosts' bedtime was
at 11pm and we didn't want to get on their bad side...so we
I'll list the outline of what we discussed later on....
>Carol, on Friday, I experiences the same as you...walking around for
>nearly 6 hours in the torrential rains...everyone pretty much did the
>best they could, but I think I hit a lot of rude people that
>day...lost my temper a little and threatened NEVER to attend another
>one...(but I know I will)...We went to visit the Conservation center
>and one-by-one the trails closed down...it was rumored to be one of
>the highlights and I was really looking forward to it, but it was not
>to be...We also missed the Merit Badge Midway, because by the time we
>left the conservation area and made it up and over to the midway, they
>were likewise closing up shop and you had to cross the Jordan River
>and Muddy Bottoms to get to it...I told Mike we should just lie down
>and roll around in it...So, this day was pretty much bust, but I did
>get one of the last four umbrellas from the visitor's trading
>post...and Mike got a few trading sessions in...
She didn't cry, folks until we left the Conservation area. You have to
understand...it was pouring rain, there's a mile and a half walk UP
the hill and AROUND the bend to get there...and then everyone was
shoving her out of the way because she was carrying this large BSA
umbrella that shielded her from the rain as long as she held it
upright...and she couldn't hold it upright and not poke someone in the
face or head or shoulder....after her cry, we went down to Trading
Post B to get some coffee and something warm...and then she started...
"Half of these kids 'gonna be sick....they're standing around
shivering and sneezing...the BSA had been doing this for years and
they STILL can't get it right....well, I'm telling you right now...
(remember folks, we are standing on the edge of one of those large
"circus tents", with rain just a-pouring down the sides....barely
getting dry and people all around us on ALL sides doing the same
...Mike Walton, I'm NOT coming to another one of these unless
you can PROMISE me that it won't rain!!!!!"
(and the other one, after I kept saying to her, "Oh honies, it's a
great day....look the rain's going to stop..." :
"If you tell me "it's a great day" ONE MORE TIME, I'd swear I'll NEVER
marry you ever!!"
I shut up then, and waited for my coffee while she went onward
complaining about being wet and miserable (and her "time of the month"
didn't help either)!!
We left there, because the Jamboree was closing and they wanted all of
the visitors to leave...and I found a bus...(I'll let HER tell you
that part...it was NOT pretty Scouting at ALL...and was not very funny
We eventually found our ways back to the parking lot and I wanted to
go to the hotel outside to do some patch trading...and was met with
this "NO!!!". I went anyways, and we saw Don Izard again there...he
told me about the Holiday Inn where they were doing a GREAT BIG
PATCHTRADING FAIR....and of course, the river rat said "NO...I'm too
wet and too dirty and ooohh...You're going to owe me BIG for this!!"
We went back to our host's home, drowned rats...with wet EVERYTHING
(even my wallet is STILL wet, and that was two days ago!!) and we
dried off and ate Chinese food...
The next day was spent packing and getting ready to meet friends of
Jess's from another list that she's on...so we went to Blacksburg. On
the way, we did stop at the Holiday Inn and we BOTH had a great
time...I got some really nice trades and some more items to add to my
display of Scouting items...and Jessiann got an education in what
makes a patch special from one of the organizers of the event....
On the way to meeting Chris and Luz, we had car problems on the other
side of the mountains outside of Beckley...we stopped at the mall
there and Jessiann immediately went into "mamabird mode": "We don't
have any money to spend on getting the car fixed...here *tossing the
checkbook to me* YOU keep up with this and see if we get our bills
paid!! We should be still ON THE ROAD and not standing here!!!"
Besides needing a newer car, the immediate problem was a split tire
that if we were still on the road, we would NOT be on the road very
much longer afterwards....and Jessiann HATES to be broke down!!
We spent $40 on a new tire and $6 on getting the other one balanced.
We were almost late getting to the Capitol, as a result..but we got
there...and back home....with no further problems.
The yellow "check engine" light never came on again after that.
>We also got to meet several new friends, as well as the "old"
>ones...so the trip, all-in-all was wonderful...We stopped in
>Charleston, WV and met Chris and Luz Haggerty (he was on a business
>trip and couldn't make he jamboree, but we pre-arranged to meet in
>WV)...and they gave us a BEAUTIFUL painting that Luz made and framed
...a painting that I wanted to place in the bedroom, but it's too
beautiful not to be shared, so it WILL go in our dining room this
Thank you again, Luz, for the beautiful addition to our home....it was
really nice and very special!
>I guess if nothing else, I made several discoveries on this trip...1)
>merit badge books make WONDERFUL resources material for lesson
>planning, 2) it's easy to spend lots of money at a Jamboree *laugh*,
>3) there are some terrific Scouts/Scouters out there that give credit
>to the BSA, and 4) we have some great friends on this list and on the
..and I got to share something very dear and personal to me with my
honies...and she got to apply all of our discussion about various
items while at the Jamboree...she still has a lot of questions, but
she feels more confortable about rasing them now than she did a while
>Thanks for listening to me babble on...Sorry we missed you Carol...we
>were both looking forward to meeting you too...and as we promised
>several of our hosts, ANY time any of you come thru this area and need
>a place to stay, please come stay with us. We'd love to have you, and
>our door is ALWAYS open...
>Jessica (who's looking forward to more Jambo trips)
Ditto from me....and one other thing....Jessiann, Rose...I love you
dearly and was GLAD that you went on the trip with me.....and I cannot
wait for the next trip!! It was FUN!
Settummanque!@"Hey! Do you have any more College Scouter strips like
that?? I would LOVE to have one....I know you have them!!"
Mike L. Walton
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