Re: Tammy ??????
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Fri, 30 Jul 1993 17:43:57 CDT
"David Edward 'Byrdman' Byrd, II" <DEB3291@TNTECH.BITNET> writes:
>>Why Tammy - Who is this concert for?
>>If the tastes of our Scouts are anything to go by this concert will not
>>be a success (or maybe the boys will be too polite not to attend) the
>>average 14 year old in Morgantown WV (you do not get much more
>>country than this) listens to Rap and Heavy Metal it is Mom and Dad
>>(or possibly Gran and Grandpop) wgho listen to the likes of Tammy
> As a former Scout, I will have to agree. My home
>Council(Sequoyah)used to have a council-wide Camporal at the VA center in
>Johnson City, TN. As part of the Saturday-night show, they always provided
>some form of entertainment.
> One year they had a group of break-dancers come and perform for the
>show. This was during the break-dancing craze, and most every Scout enjoyed
>the show. They asked us to come closer to the stage so that we could help
>catch anybody who might accidentally fall off the stage. Needless to say,
>we were packed tighter than sardines in a can. Everybody loved the show.
> The year before that we were treated to the rockin' blue grass
>sounds of Homer, Jed, and String Bean(not kidding!). The audience looked
>like an ad for Vivarin(TM).
(was this the "before" or "after using" scene?? *loud laughter!* )
> Unfortunately, it seems that the entertainment for these events is
>sometimes chosen on the basis of what the Scouters want, and not what the
>Scouts want. I know that the Scouters have to be there during the show and
>listen to it as well, but the BSA is for the Scouts, and I think that the
>Scouts should get a little more consideration.
Okay..okay...here goes the "unofficial" explaination of why we always
get stuck with the "behind the times" bands like the Beach Boys or
Up With People; or country acts like the Oak Rigde Boys, Alabama, or
(now it seems) Tammy Wynette. Please note that at NO TIME was I ever
actually IN THE ROOM when this matter was discussed...just happened to
be friends with several of the professionals that unfortunately have
to be there during the decision-making process.
The first thing to get their consideration is the money...yes, the
Jamboree *could be* equated to a large municipal auditorium, complete
with the most up-to-date sound and light system. However, getting a
"name act" to come and perform a) outdoors, b) at night, c) without all
of the "extras" (flash pots, multimedia displays, etc. d) to adults
primarily (there will about about 25K kids there...about 30 to 35K
adults and "visitors") is extremely hard to do.
Most "name acts" require that a certain "guaranteed minimum" show up
for the show...and most acts want to do at least three or four sets;
the Jamboree, because of the number of "acts", limits the performers
to two (three with the Oak Ridge Boys) sets.
Once you have eliminated a lot of "recognizable acts" from this
list...you have to look at the next thing...appropriateness. I would
love to see Run-DMC or Metallica or even Michael Bolton do the
Jamboree...but in all cases, their acts would not be "appropriate to a
family show (which the National Jamboree Committee considers the
opening and closing shows to be...family shows)". Even if the
contracts signed would have a provision to "not pay the fees" if
their's one cuss word or inappropriate behavior displayed...
The next thing is the availability. The summer months are busy months
for all performers...there are lots of state and county fairs,
community fairs and events, and the regular concerts that also compete
with the Jamboree's time period. I remember that it was a "hold your
breath" kind of thing in 85 to get the Beach Boys to come.....they
were on their regular tour and "just happened to have ONE day" between
concert appearances, to come to the Jamboree. Then it was the thing
with the managers...they wanted to do it for the small amount...and
their managers said "no". They, as everyone knows now, didn't listen
to their managers and put on a GREAT show, including several songs
that we heard for the first time...before the radio stations started
playing them. It payed off for them, I am sure of it!
The final thing is getting a committment from them to actually be
there....some of you remember the looooooooong delay in getting Bob
Hope to the Jamborees in 1973 (in 73, we held TWO Jamborees...in Idaho
and in Pennsylvania...and the logistics in getting Bob Hope to perform
at both was large, to say the least...). If things are not worked out
COMPLETELY for a band or performer, they *can* cancel. And seeing how
they are doing this for money (unlike "charity concerts", whereby the
performers don't accept the personal services fees, the Jamboree bills
itself as a "special event" (which it is...) and performers are not
really willing to forego thousands of bucks for "the good of the Boy
So...that's how we got Tammy. Hey...be glad we didn't get Slim
Whitman and Zamfir (the "man with the golden flute")!!
Personally, I don't know why they couldn't get Wil Smith ("The Fresh
Prince"), Chicago, Amy Grant, or even some jazz acts like Kenny G or
David Sandborn......oh well.....
Settummanque!@Hey! just because I happen to love all of those acts....
Mike L. Walton
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