David D. Miller +49 6221 594535 (DDM@DHDIBM1.BITNET)
Tue, 20 Jul 1993 11:26:20 -0600
> Districts are further divided into sections. Each
> section is made up of the local outposts (your troop). Within the
> outposts are age groups (Straight Arrows 5-6 years old), Buckaroos
> (7-8), Pioneers (9-11), Trailblazers (12-14), and Air-Sea-Trail
> Rangers (15-17). There is a Senior Commander over the entire
> collection of age groups (scout master?), with each age group
> having Commanders, Lt. Commanders, Junior Cmdrs, Patrol Guides etc.
The Outpost corresponds closely with the Scout Group in the UK: a sort
of family grouping of the different age-levels in a given locality.
The equivalent of Senior Commander is normally called the
Group Scout Leader (GSL). This is also similar to the situation in
Germany, with the 'Stamm' (roughly translated as tribe, clan, or family)
as the primary organization.
BSA keeps the different age levels in different "Troops". A Cub Pack,
Boy Scout Troop and Explorer Post are three separate organizations,
even if they meet in the same building and share some leaders.
In normal life, the Boy Scout and Cub Scout leaders don't meet, and
the Boy Scout and Explorer Leaders regard the other as competition.
In a British Group, the main monthly meeting is the Group Scouters
Meeting, for all the adult leaders in the Group, with open talk on
cooperation within the Group (or rather how to achieve open talk...).
(One of my 'failed' ticket items was due to a misunderstanding of just
how unrelated Troop 1 and Pack 1 are. A solution to the problem is
due in the next month or so - I'll explain in another posting.)
I know that I prefer the Group structure, even though most conflicts
are between the leaders 'at the sharp end' and the GSL. However, the
streamlining of the committee structure, only hitting parents once for
subscriptions and help fundraising, one building to be looked after,
etc., probably outweigh the minor problems of not having a key to the
In both the UK and Germany, a Group or Stamm could have two or more
Troops, Packs, etc., in it. In the Royal Rangers, is it possible to
have three groups of Pioneers in one Outpost if the numbers dictate?
Or is a Pioneer group fixed at 6 boys, and multiple Groups are the
only way to go? (UK Cub Packs are limited to 36 Cubs, anything more
and two smaller packs have to be formed instead.) And if so, what
steps are taken to do 'age-level activities' so that all the Pioneers
feel they belong to a single Outpost? (Each of the five Girl Scout
age levels in Heidelberg has had a major inter-Troop activity in the
past year, with Juniors and Cadettes both going on international
Also of interest is how you encourage members to transfer from one
age level to another. This is quite a problem in the UK, and also
of immediate interest to us here in BSA in Heidelberg. (We've just
seen six boys graduate out of a Cub Pack, but only one has landed in
a Boy Scout Troop.) Is the transfer done one at a time, or does
an entire Pioneer group suddenly become a Trailblazers group?
(The German Scouts here keep the group together at all times, even
though some may still be Cubs and others Scouts during the transition
David D. Miller
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