Re: BSA 'bush' hats
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Tue, 6 Jul 1993 12:26:52 CDT
Well....here's what I found out about ALL of the issues that we've
been discussing along the lines of uniforming and the Jamboree:
On Uniforms: Paul (one of the BSA supply division's buyers) talked
with me about several issues:
* That the Explorer Green uniform HAS been pulled from the shelves as
of MAY of this year....due to low demand for them. They will still be
available as a special order item (like the Explorer Whites and the
Explorer Blues) from the Supply Division. Scout Shops were instructed
to either sell what they have, give them away, or return to BSA Supply
for credit. I called the Scout Shop in Knoxville, and got "granny"
to tell me the same things...(she wasn't in a great mood when I'd
called, so the only thing I got from her was that "They came and took
them all back!").
* That the BSA is NOT field-testing ANY uniform parts except for the
continued evaluation of the acceptance of the new all-cotton uniforms
for adults (replacing the cotton-poly blend ones that we are wearing).
* Here is the story on the "bush hats". Last year, the Scout Program
Division asked Supply to create a new bush-type hat based roughtly on
the "desert storm hat". Supply did that, and ordered a whole bunch of
them....unfortunatly the Scout Program Division director (T.J.
VanHooten), did NOT like them and the idea was trashed...but the hats
were sent to seventeen local Councils in the Southern and Central
Regions before T.J.'s decision....(can we say "oops"??) Local Councils
can still get the rest of them, but as far as being "official", they
are NOT (even with the BSA seal on the inside).
Paul says "if any of your friends can get them, they'd better get them
quickly...there were 20 or 25 boxes sent out and each box contained 40
(40 times 25 equals 1000)."
(*hey Frank Bates....can you swing down to your Camp and get me two
large ones please??? hehehe*)
* Yes, Supply will take back uniforms that don't fit or that is
defective ANYTIME...the address to send them is to the National
Office, BSA (Attn: Supply Division).
* Once more, the National policy is that ANY COMPLETE UNIFORM is okay
for wear (and informally, he says that any combination of uniform
parts is okay as well as long as they are serviceable and presents an
Scouting appearance...but for the Jamborees, Council activities and
other activities in which the Scout or Scouter is in the public, the
present uniform is the one which should be worn completely!)
Paul also stated that there has been correspondence that went to the
Scout Executives at the start of the year that restates the policy.
* Finally, he stated that they will be more proactive when it comes to
places like Sal Army and Goodwill selling BSA uniforms. ONLY those
approved "distributors" can sell Scouting merchadise (even old
Scouting items). But, he said, if Goodwill want to GIVE you uniforms
in exchange for a donation, they are more than welcomed to do that.
I got Paul to transfer me to the Jamboree Staff Service, where I them
talked with Barbara May, one of the professionals handling the staff
placements and arrangements:
* Applications will be taken up to the first day of the Jamboree for
ANYONE wanting to serve on staff...the applications MUST be approved
by the Council/Scout Executive BEFORE sent to the National
Office....they are still trying to fill two program areas and a
trading post in addition to the OA and Youth Service Corps slots.
Hope that I've helped out...and my apologies for the quite long
posting that I've sent out before....I thought that if I answered
a group of related questions together instead of sending nine separate
postings, I'd be saving time...I guess not!
Mike L. Walton
( in search of bush hats and LARGE Explorer Shirts)
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