Re: Answers for you
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Tue, 6 Jul 1993 10:03:31 CDT
In your very lengthy posting, there were two items I felt should be addressed:
ANSWER: Jim: Where can I get one of those holders?? I've got a campaign hat
that I need to safely store it?
--Mike, the holders for the "Smokey" hats have been part of our BSA catalog for
the 20+ years I have been in the program. I believe you will find our supplies
still, but I do not have a catalog here at work.
In 1972, fashion designer Oscar de la Rente was contacted by the President of
the BSA to "design us a set of uniforms that will take Scouting into the next
--I corrected the spelling of the man's name for you all. It is also true that
the sizing for our uniforms was changed at this point to match "Sears" sizing,
since that was who de la Rente worked for before us.
--The new uniforms were brought out in 1980 (while I was at Philmont Training
Center) with the National Uniform Committee director, and several volunteers
from the committee. The handouts from that week's course (Boy Scout Program)
were very useful in explaining why, after so many, many years, our uniforms
needed to be updated. The major stress at that time, was to bring our uniforms
more closely in line with international scouting uniforms.
--I have always disliked the idea that de la Rente knows how to build a piece of
clothing for the "ordinary" people, not model types, and have felt (and said so
in writing to the national committee several times) that someone with true
knowledge of the human figure would be better used here.
Last point, and I know I have posted it numerous times. When I quote the "rules
and regs" it is NOT for those of you who know it, it is for those who do not.
It is also RARELY a statement of my personal opinions.
I DO however, strongly believe in knowing the rules BEFORE taking action. The
volunteers of our country would be much more successful if they followed the
volunteer communication lines, AND knew what they were fighting prior to the
The females uniform parts have been changed numerous times SINCE 1980, and will
probably continue to do so, until we get someone in there who knows that women
are not all "models" and many have hips.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City