Re: Wearing an old uniform.
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Mon, 5 Jul 1993 14:00:24 CDT
Rob Sherman <rsherman@CAP.GWU.EDU> writes:
>We have a scout who has the same shirt... He just wears the shirt with
>regular uniform shorts/socks/etc. We don't have any problem with it, but
>he wears his neckercheif in accordance with our placement policy (collar).
This question has come up before and the way I answered it was really
long (and at times confusing), so I'll try to answer it here for
everyone without being as wordy as I've been known to be.
The CURRENT policy is that *either* COMPLETE OLD or COMPLETE NEW is to
be worn by Scouts and Scouters...this means no "old shirt with new
pants" and "no new shirt with old pants". Since there were four
varieties of the "old uniform" since the BSA came into being,
naturally there would be lots of the OLD uniforms around than the
present tan and kelly green ones.
I will call tommorrow morning and ask specifically about the Explorer
shirts once more, since there has been several postings here that
indicated that the Explorer shirt is not available anymore.
While it may save money (and I know it does!) to "mix and match", the
problem with this wearing is that it simply looks better for the Scout
to wear the complete uniform, old OR new than it is to mix the two.
Now...that is POLICY...here's PRACTICE: MOST local Councils
(including yours, the National Capitol Area Council) WILL allow Scouts
and Scouters to "mix and match" the uniforms, as long as both tops and
bottoms are serviceable and come close to a match as possible. This
is usaully done by approaching your District Executive/Director/Field
Executive and simply ASKING "Hey...I've got a old shirt that I would
like to wear with the current pants, since I cannot find a pair to
fit me. You think that would be alright??" Most professionals, glad
to see you in a BSA uniform, will say "I don't care..as long as it
looks nice and neat". Few of them WILL SAY NO, but that's what we
hire them for --to make those decisions.
Uniforms are expensive and the BSA Executive Board tries to hold down
the costs of the uniform. If you have a old uniform and wish to wear
it, don't feel bad about asking...you are saving yourself some money
by asking. The BSA has been saying that COMPLETE OLD or COMPLETE NEW
for the past twenty years...ever since the new uniforms were
introduced...so, if you have one, two or five old uniforms and want to
wear them, make sure that you have a complete set...or ask if it is
okay in YOUR Council to do so.
A final reminder: the uniform for ALL participants in Council Summer
camp, for Regional and National events, and for the Order of the Arrow
IS the PRESENT SCOUT UNIFORM (circa 1973+), with shoulder loops. There
has been NO EXECEPTIONS TO THIS POLICY AND LOCAL COUNCILS ARE
OBLIGATED TO HOLD MEMBERS AND LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS POLICY!
In summary: Get a present uniform for summer camp, national and
regional events and OA events; but for unit events, activities and
those local events, if you have a old complete uniform, wear it; if
not, seek permission and wear what you have. And NO means "not when
I'm not looking", it means NO and SOME local Councils have explicit
reasons why not (and I can list an entire list of why nots).
Mike L. Walton (the owner of five old shirts and two pair of old
pants, one of which is too small for me...can anyone use a pair of 30
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