Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Mon, 14 Jun 1993 11:32:06 CDT
Robert Craig <rcraig@LIBRARY.CARLETON.CA> writes:
>What exactly is the procedure that a leader within the BSA has to take in
>earning their Woodbadge?
In the USA, Bob, Scouters attend Woodbadge as a result of their
application of their previous training as a Scouter. Let me explain
this briefly (and yes, Mike Walton *can* explain things briefly!).
Our Woodbadge courses are presently in two formats (there is a
separate Exploring Advanced Seminar/Exploring Leadership Institute
course which parallels the other two, but is presently NOT a
"Woodbadge Course" certified by National).
The Cub Scout Leader Woodbadge course is for those whom will serve as
trainers and coaches to Cub Scouting leaders at the local Council
level. In order to attend, Cub Scouting leaders must have completed
several training courses, starting with the Cub Scout Leaders' Basic
Course, and ending with a Train-the-Trainers' Course, all at the local
Council level. Most of the people that attend Cub Woodbadge courses
are trainers at the local Council or District level.
The Boy Scout Woodbadge course is designed primarily for those that
work in Troop operations or whom will train those working in Troop
operations. For the most part, these are Scoutmasters, Assistant
Scoutmasters, Commissioners and *some* professionals. Other Troop
operations persons (for example, Troop Committee Chairs or
Committeemembers or other administrative Commissioners) are sometimes
admitted as well as some Exploring leaders but this is the exception
and not the general rule. In order to attend Boy Scout Woodbadge, the
person must attend and complete the Boy Scout Leader Scoutmaster
Fundamentals course and have had some period to use that training in
his or her unit or sphere of Troop operations.
>I heard some people mention that it is by invitation only.
ALL of the BSA's advanced training programs are by invitation only.
This is NOT designed to "keep certain people out" , but rather only to
insure that a quality amount of training is conducted at each course.
The courses are *very expensive* to hold for the local Council (which
must receive Regional approval to hold the course) and for the
participants (because of the massive amount of information and the
environment of the course itself). Therefore, the deal with the
invites are to insure that we get those that will benefit from the
course into a course at the two-two and a half year period after they
have attended a Scoutmaster Fundamentals course. Some local Councils
push this window of experience back another year, so that this will
give the Scoutmaster time to earn the new Scoutmaster Award of Merit
and to earn the Scouter's Key as a Scoutmaster before inviting him or
her to attend Woodbadge.
In the Cub Trainer's Woodbadge course, invites are sent to those
primarily in positions and with the experience in teaching other Cub
Scouting leaders: Roundtable Commissioners and Staffs, professionals
heading up Cub leadership training, and chairs of Training programs at
the local Council or District levels. There are some Cubmasters that
attend, but this is like the Troop Committee persons at the Boy Scout
level....not many attend unless they can show a direct connection
between what they do and the intent of the course.
Exploring leaders wanting to attend one of the five regional Exploring
Advanced Semimars (two are offered each year in the Western Region;
one in each other Region) must have served as an Exploring leader for
two years and completed the Exploring Leader Basic Course and the
Council Service Team Courses at the local level and have had time to
apply the training in their units. Most Exploring leaders that attend
the EAS are Council or District Exploring chairs or Service
Team/Commissioners; very few Advisors only attend the course. It is
the same thing with the Western Region-based Exploring Leadership
The invitation letters are sent by the local Council Executive and the
Council's training chair to those selected to attend. Applications are
sent to them, the Council training committee selects those to attend,
and the letters are sent to them from the training committee (as in
the one that Dave received over the weekend...congrats, Dave!!!)
>Here in Canada, Scouts Canada is trying to press for it as mandatory
>training. In other words, when you sign up as a leader, within the first year,
>we expect the leader to take their Part I Woodbadge and by their second year,
>they should have their Part II. Some areas in Canada already have this
>or a similar program of Mandatory Training (also called Essential or Quality
I am sure that what you refer to as "part one woodbadge" is the basic
part of our Scouting training program, and "part two" is the actual
Woodbadge course, approved by the World Association of Scouting. IN
In many nations, that's how Scouting training is done, with the
Woodbadge course being a component in a basic training program. In
the USA, however, we view those that have completed Woodbadge...in
either format...as Scouters that have taken the extra mile in insuring
that they are providing a quality program to their Scouts and to other
adults involved in the program.
What the BSA calls "quality training" is merely getting the Scouter to
attend Fast Start (which is a basic introduction to the position) and
to attend a basic training course. I don't have 1991 figures, but in
1990, we were only hitting 53.5 percent of all registered primary
leaders (Scoutmasters, Cubmasters, Exploring Advisors, Varsity Team
Coaches, and Exploring Skippers) nationally. This is a long drop from
the days when we had to have two or three Woodbadge courses in a
Council and a waiting list because the percentage was as high as 78.2
percent (in 1975) and 78.7 percent (in 1977).
If we get them to a basic course, we are doing great. If we get them
motivated enough to seek a Woodbadge course, we are doing better, and
if we get them *to* a course, we are doing outstanding....and if they
receive their beads...well...we are REALLY EXCITED FOR THEM...(that's
why in part, why you see so many congrats here on this forum for
Scouters that have started or completed Woodbadge...it IS a *big deal*
to us American Scouters, because not everyone has the "guts" to attend
and "finish their tickets", completing the personalized requirements
for the attainment of the beads and neckerchief.
(It's NOT a matter of money....it could be, but if a Scouter REALLY
want to go to Woodbadge, they'll find a way....and we'll help them.
It's NOT a matter of time...there are some of us here (like me, for
instance) that have waited for years to get the time to go and went...
and employers are more interested in "quality management training"
(which Woodbadge is, you know....) that results in a better employee..
and it's NOT a matter of location, because as I am typing this, there
are seventeen Woodbadge courses in operation NOW around the nation
(three within a three-hour's drive from my front door step!). )
Hope that *brief* answer helps!
Mike L. Walton
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