Re: Intro and Quests.
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Thu, 6 May 1993 17:58:05 CDT
Len Miller <LMILLER3@UA1VM.BITNET> writes:
>Hey there, Hi there, Ho there,
> My name is Len Miller and I am a 24 year old who recently subscribed
>to this list. Just a short blurb about myself. Arrow of Light guy, never
>got my Eagle, didn't finish the project, Vigil Honor. Been on camp staff
>since I was 15, currently a Program Director for the 4th year. Taught
>National Camp School for 3 years for Northeast Region. Overall, most of
>my experience is with camp. Incidentally I work at Heritage Reservation
>with the Greater Pittsburgh Council. Now I'm a graduate student in Geography
>at the University of Alabama (National Champs).
> Now my questions:
>3. Finally and _most_ importantly. We recently got a new director of
>camping. His name is Vic (I can't remember his last name) and he was
>at the National Capital Area Council (Goshen Camp). There were some problems
>there with him and I have not yet met the man. I would like to know if anyone
>can give me an honest opinion of him and what to expect. Please understand
>that I am not trying to prejudice myself against him, I will take everything
>with a grain of salt. I am just trying to get a picture overall of his
>abilities. All info will be kept confidential (please use e-mail, not the
His name is Victor W. Arsenault, and he was the Camping Director of
the Goshen Scout Camps (all seven of them) and Director of Camping
Services for the National Capitol Area Council. Like all
professionals, a "little disagreement" with a key volunteer can send
you packing, or in case of more junior professionals, packing home for
good (as in leaving the profession).
I worked with Vic while at Alexandria and he was responsible for
getting me to work as a Camp Commissioner for several camps over the
summer I was stationed there...unfortunately (well..actually,
fortunately for the nation; bad timing I guess for me personally...or
maybe not...), I had to leave there early (the third week of camp).
I'll send you personal e-mail if you still want it, but I would say
the same things about him privately that I would publically. When
you are dealing with over $17M in camping facility, a staff of four
fulltime which swells to over 200 during the summer months, a constant
set of pressures from your boss (the Assistant Scout Exeuctive) and
his boss (the Council Executive) and their volunteers, and when you
have a growing family (I believe it is three children, with the last
one born while I was there, in '91), some little "thing" will esclate
into something more than what it was worth. And things like that are
unfortunate. I cannot tell you the situation there, since I am not
there for one and two, it would be a breech of professional ethics to
do so; but I can tell you that Vic is not just a premiere Scouter--and
a YOUNG premiere Scouter (he's the same age as a lot of Field
Directors in his Area!), he also teaches recreation at Georgetown and
the University of D.C., a member of the National Recreation and Parks
Association, and was tapped at one time (the way I understand it) to
go and be the new Director of Program at Philmont. He turned it down
to stay at Goshen.
His office is full of pictures of this man's other hobby, snowskiing.
It is also jammed full (as my office *hopefully* will be) of various '
"thanks" from Scouts and Scouters and lots of pictures of his family
and outdoor scenes from the Goshen camps.
Be assured, Len, that you are NOT getting a "dud". This man KNOWS
Scouting, KNOWS camping and KNOWS what will sell to Scouts and their
parents. He's not, at least in my opinion only, a great politician.
But he's NOT a politician...and there are many there that don't
understand that his job is to supervise and run a multi-million dollar
outdoor facility at little or no profit for people that will come and
destroy a large part of it before the end of the fourth week. Not only
has he been successful in raising the funds neccessary to rebuild and
rebuild and improve upon the seven individual camps and the camp
facility as a whole; he has been VERY successful in getting a large
number of Scouts and Scouters to endure a two and a half hour drive to
get to the camp (which, as I remind everyone that mentions Goshen, is
NOT within the Council boundaries of the NCAC...which makes it even
harder to deal with, because in addition to your own professional
staff to schedule events there, you have two OTHER Councils that
schedule OA, Exploring , District and unit camping events
Hope that resolves some of your anixety!! Have a great summer @camp!!
Mike L. Walton (who's NOT a personal friend of V. Arsenault, just
a worker bee)
( Settummanque, the blackeagle... ) )
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