Re: Training Award Requirements Question
Dr. Steven C. Myers (R1SCM@AKRONVM.BITNET)
Wed, 5 May 1993 23:56:59 EDT
On Wed, 5 May 1993 09:00:54 CDT Kathie Cerveny said:
>Truly sorry you feel that way. The position is not a trading post, it is a
> legal position for a boy entitled, Librarian. That is where the MB books are
> kept, and kept up to date. The MB counselors, of course, buy their own. Many
> boys also wish to purchase their own, and of course, that helps the drain on
> the troop library.
Kathie, Sorry, I thought you had said that I the SM needed to supply the book.
That I don't agree with. I do agree with the idea of having a librarian to
maintain and checkout what stock we have and the other post I just read about h
aving that boy update or mark as obsolute all requirements is brilliant. Indeed
with our xerox down the hall, we should be able to paste in new req. to the
badge right in the book. Still, I don't think that the troop MUST have to keep
all books on all merit badges. When it can be done it is a great idea.
>Scoutmaster Fundamentals, Boy Scout Leader Basic Training, and indeed even the
> old Cornerstone, all have sections on the troop positions. I will rarely
> suggest a solution that is not already in the program, unless one has tried it
> and it has not worked.
For the record we are all trained here. I might even do WB this fall.
>i.e. your troop has a troop library and a troop librarian, and with 14 boys and
> growing, you can not keep up with the demand on your library. Then, I would
> strongly suggest that you, as SM, upon signing the merit badge card to approve
> him working on that badge, tell him where to buy a book.
This is not a problem for us. My troop is in a "well off" area. None of the
kids are rich, but 1.85 for a book is not a problem. The problem is us having
to do it. We also have council and two close distributors where books may
be purchased. When the troop does a merit badge en masse such as rifle s.
I took orders, collected money ad went and bought them. Last night when
they chose their summer camp schedules, the form I used had a column labeled
"Do you want to order a merit badge book meaning I will get it and you will pay
>However -- and remember, I have been working in very poor areas in Chicago for
> the past four years -- many of those boys don't even have families, no less
> funds so a troop library's need is easy to determine, funding has been by
> charter organization donation; matching funds from registered adults
> fundraising projects, such as car washes, etc.
>Since merit badges are supposed to worked on individually, it would be unusual
> in your size troop to need more than one of each of the required badges, and
> add to your library on an annual basis, those books that are most needed per
> the actual working of your boys.
But, doesn't each scout HAVE to go with a BUDDY? I know the boy doesn't have
to have his buddy work on the badge, but this happens. My problem is getting
the boys to actually call the counselor!!!
>It seems your troop is working on merit badge, other than at summer camp, and
> that is a giant step towards the success of the boy and your troop. It is
> quite amazing how many troops do not even attempt to encourage badge work
> outside of summer camp, or if you are about to turn 18 and need them for
Time for a "story." A long time ago I told my troop about a 13.5 year old eagl
e that was looked down on by fellow scouts (mostly eagles, eagle wantabes, and
OA types -- many 18+) and talked about behind his back -- not out of jealosy,
but because it was immediately obvious that the scout had no real scout skills
and seemed not to "live" by the oath and law. Well this story has taken on th
e mantle of urban legend for my scouts. All in my troop are convinced that the
path to eagle requires (1) evidence of ability to earn badges in the winter
as well as at summer camp, (2) a wide variety of counselors, not all signed
by a few �I am getting a lot of presure to register as a 42 so I can sign
as counselor -- I probably will, but I like them going to others), (3) ability
to earn badges on their own as well as in group situations, (4) not being
content at getting the bare 21, (5) doing the badge at their best level and not
looking for the easy way every time.
We as a troop will offer four or five MBs over the course of a year in the regu
lar troop meetings. However, it is current troop policy that we will never
do a eagle required merit badge in troop meeting time. We bring in counselors
to the meetings and allow the boys to work on the merit badge, so between 11 an
d 18 a scout could maybe get 8x5=40 badges, but if he wants to be Star, Life,
or Eagle, he must go out and get these on his own (with my help of course).
Summer camp doesn't offer them all by far, so this becomes the ultimate
test of a boys ability to advance past First Class. In my troop, we try to get
you to First Class, the rest is up to the scout.
>Hope this clears up my previous message to you and others.
Yes, lots. Interesting exchange. Anyone else out there agree or disagree with
my last paragraph?
SM Troop 1
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