Re: Scout spirit, leadership
Dr. Steven C. Myers (R1SCM@AKRONVM.BITNET)
Mon, 19 Apr 1993 21:55:52 EDT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1993 15:52:29 EDT Foley, Mary Lee said:
>On Mon, 19 Apr 1993 15:01:18 EDT Don Izard said:
I wasn't going to respond to the message below until I read Mary Lee Foley's
message. I am not going balistic, but she describes the correct way to pick a
scribe. The only elections in the new scheme of things are for the SPL and the
PLs. Since they are the only jobs Don's boys seem to want, then I see little
problem. We let the SPL select the ASPL with the SM agreement. The SPL and
ASPL select the troop officers (QM, Scribe) since the ASPL is responsible for
their operations (they report to him). The PLs pick their own APLs and get
together on the other patrol jobs (which rotate more than not).
Planning is done by the PLC with the boys working their plan or lack thereof.
They know that when a meeting doesn't go well, its up to them to plan and
carry out the plan better next time. The patrols have total responsibility
for the plan for the monthly campouts (within perdefined limits that are
wideing as the boys are growing older). One scout said to me just Tuesday,
"You know, we don't seem to do anything except plan and prepare for the next
campout." I said "you know (and btw I NEVER say "you know") I think your
on to something.
On the other thread of older boys and "scout mentality," one poster even
said that the patrols were weak. Well that is the problem. If the patrols
are responsible for themselves, and they aren't too large (5 to 8) then
the older boys can not escape their fair share. Which BTW, their fair
share might be slightly less work, but in a Patrol, they will have to
share in the work. Get the patrols working and the mentality problems
Scoutmaster Troop 1
>> We do not always get scouts to volunteer to RUN for all the
>> positions, so the SPL ofter has to BEG his buddies to help.
>> SPL and PL's seem to be the only jobs that scouts WANT.
>> So we may have a standard ONLY to run for SPL & PL. The rest
>> may only be a standard for statisfactory service once they
>> accept any other leadership positition to help the general
>> benefit of the unit.
>> Do other troops find that scouts want to be Scribe or Quartermaster?
> Since I am still very active at the pack level, I have participated
> only minimally at the troop level (mostly camping.) But I can tell
> you once how our troop filled the position of Scribe: at his SM
> conference just before his board of review for First Class, my son
> was asked if he would be interested in being the Scribe. To the best
> of my knowledge, there was no election - this is a small troop and
> every boy could probably *pick* a position as soon as he's qualified!
> (Now, don't go ballistic on me and tell me how it *should* be done -
> when you have only a few boys and most of them are under 14/1st Class
> you do whatever works for the group.)
>Mary Lee Foley University of Toledo
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