Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Fri, 9 Apr 1993 17:20:40 CDT
Nathan Brindle <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET> writes:
>In all this discussion about what to do with young men when they get
>older (and here I'm talking between 18 and 21, so I'm modifying the
>thread somewhat), I <have> seen APO crop up but never the College
>Scouting Reserve. Does it still exist? Someone once told me that
>since it doesn't appear on the applications anymore, you have to be
>"in the know" and know the proper code.
As of Janurary 1988, all local Councils have been told NOT to
register ANYONE using the old College Scouter Reserve code (71, I
believe it was). My understanding is that the new registration
software won't even accept the code anymore.
There were several reasons why this was done.
First, CSR members were registered actually as members of the local
District and NOT as unit members. The BSA is trying as hard as it can
to match up names with a unit if they belong to a unit. And most of
the CSR members are in reality members of local Troops, Teams or
Posts and just going to college; therefore, as I mentioned in an
earlier posting, they should be registered where they are going to be
serving--and most of those Scouters are going to be serving the unit
as assistant leaders or as members of the unit's committee.
Second, many District Executives and Chairmen expressed displeasure
at the "gain" of 20-40 people that they cannot do anything with. How
would you like to get your new charter and see 18-37 MORE names than
you thought that you had, and then trying to call them either at
school or home and welcome them. As a former Membership/Relationship
Chair, I can tell you it ain't fun at ALL!!! Very frustrating, and you
couldn't drop them from the charter until the end of their
registration! Some Districts have tried to contact those CSR members to
get them to help out with local District projects or to serve on
advancement or other subcommittees. Most college students don't either
have the time, don't want to make the time or are interested only in other
things (like OA or camporee staff for example) to "mess around with the
District". And believe it or not, Nathan, there are STILL some Eagle
Scouts that are out there that are unconfortable being around adults!
Figure that one out!
Lastly, the CSR was used by many college students (and others) to keep
active registration with the BSA *just* for OA membership. This (the
"new" policy) prevents this from occurring. Many OA members were not
active with the Lodge but payed to stay "active" with the BSA and therefore,
still considered "active".
The BSA is emphasizing (for youth protection, number count and ease of
control of volunteers) that everyone registers in ONE position and
where possible, that position either is (in this order) with a UNIT,
the DISTRICT or COUNCIL.
There *are* alternatives to this....College Scouter Explorer Posts
were formed, with the first one at Eastern Kentucky University in
1979. Other universities having "Scouting Service" Posts include the
University of Utah, the University of Washington, Augusta College, the
University of Rhode Island, and High Point College. They are all
patterned after the prototype Post at EKU. (and EKU's Post was
patterned after the American Humanics "H-Club" at High Point College!)
These College Scouter posts are simply groups of former and present Scouts
and Scouters, Explorers, and their friends, interested youth and others
interested in staying active in Scouting and Exploring, giving service to
the local District/Council and to learn about careers as professionals or
service as volunteers. (and to have fun as college students!)
As you mentioned, Alpha Phi Omega (APO) has chapters on many campuses
but depending upon the history between Council and chapter, many many
not do a whole lot (or anything) with the Scouting program in the
areas. There are MANY APO chapters that are also in part or in full
Explorer Posts (as with the chapter here at Western Kentucky
University), but this is mainly to circumvent the CSR policy change
and partly to get the additional insurance coverage per youth member.
APO is a viable alternative if the youth in question wants to
associate with others that do service and leadership development
programs--and one that as a APO brother myself, would STRONGLY
recommend to anyone.
>BTW, IMHO, I think it would be <awfully> nice if local councils pushed
>APO more than they do to their college-bound scouts. APO could use
>more scouts in it...and that goes for Girl Scouts too. I'm planning
>to take some fresh APO literature down to the council office where I
>know it will be put out in a prominent place (mainly because the people
>I will give it to back APO!).
>Just my $.02...YiS,
Good idea!! No comment about the APO-BSA issue...I think that I've
expended about a year's worth of comment about that on APO-L a while
Mike L. Walton
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