Steve Souza (76703.633@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Fri, 9 Apr 1993 05:20:41 EDT
Sb: Re: The numbers Game (youth)
quoted From: "Settummanque, the blackeagle"
> however... when you already have the reality, the numbers can make a
> difference. When you have young men in your Troop (Varsity, Venture,
> whatever) that are turning 18 and no longer able to be "youth" in the
> Troop... Have then register as Explorers, with their 'additional'
> registration being the ASM or MC position.
> This is NOT a great alternative, Steve...what this does for me as a
> professional is to create "new units"...
I wasn't suggesting adding/creating new units, rather, have the 18 yr olds
join existing (functional) Explorer Posts. Especially ones that are
"Traditional" Posts rather than CAE.
> I would have to return to that Explorer Post (which is created for those
same "numbers", in this case, UNIT numbers) sometime in the following year
to reorganize it...
That's the beauty of having them join an existing Post... no maint. no fuss
no problem, more youth bodies on the roles.
> have them register as Explorers at the college or university where they
> will be attending.
> APO post at the University of Pennsylvania. Both are great programs for
> those "Assistant Scoutmasters" that want to continue to do "youth things"
Both of these are also good ideas (not as good as mine <g>, but better than
terrible)... I also wasn't suggesting the 18 yr olds were wanting to do
'youth' things, simply that by having their primary registration be with a
Post, they were still a part of the youth 'numbers' "when you already have
the reality [of a functional Troop program]".
> The other idea is as Frank stated, KEEP THEM IN THE TROOP as Assistant
> Scoutmasters and dual-register them as Explorers (if they wish to) for the
> Exploring advancement program only.
But having them be a dual with the Post doesn't have them show up on the
unit numbers... that's why I suggested having their primary be the Post, and
their dual be the Troop (as an adult), since Troop adults don't count as far
as the numbers (as you verified).
> That way, when they are home on weekends, they can continue to work with
> the Troop and the Troop has a ready "stand-by" pool of adult leaders that
> know the unit and the youth.
My idea was for those who were staying in town (either attending a local
college (which we have six within an hours drive) or going right into the
work force) and wanting to remain a functional part of Scouting at home.
> That Exploring structure won't mean anything to them if all they are doing
> is Scouting activities.
The Exploring structure designed into the "Traditional" Posts sure will.
> I would rather have a Post composed of youth members that are interested
> in a particular field
In the same vein, I'd rather have a Post composed of older Scouts that are
interested in outdoors skills, and advanced comping, hiking, skiing,
shooting, abseiling, etc... <g>
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