Dr. Steven C. Myers (R1SCM@AKRONVM.BITNET)
Thu, 8 Apr 1993 04:23:48 EST
On Wed, 7 Apr 1993 13:35:59 EDT Michael Rogero Brown said:
>> So, if I understand this correctly...
>Frank- everything you have here is correct, but let me make a few additions...
>> 1. There can be a Varsity and/or Venture patrol (or whatever) *within* a
>> troop. In this context, Venture focuses on "high adventure" and Varsity
>> focuses on sports, but there are no real prohibitions to limit either
>> group to the area of primary focus or prevent crossovers.
>> The boys can start developing these patrols as early as 13 years old.
>One thing is these patrols to not necessarily have to be permanent, separate
>patrols. One idea some leaders do it to form a Venture Crew (that's the term)
>for the express reason of preparing and caring out a Venture trip/activiety.
>Once it is completed, the boys would return to their regular patrols.
Now I like this idea! I have been thinking of the problem, but as of yet
have no older boys. I don't need to loose "leaders" just as they are
developed. Also, 13 seems too young to see them split from the regular
patrols. But this idea of "event crews" is first rate. Am I missing
00ps- I think Varsity is called 'Squad' or maybe 'team' I don't recall]
>> These groups would normally use the Venture pamphlets for Venture
>> activities and the Varsity (sports) pamphlets for Varsity activities.
>> According to the 1991 _Insignia Guide_ (as I understand it), either
>> patrol can earn the "V" to wear on their merit badge sashes and the
>> appropriate pins. These boys would wear the "Venture" or "Varsity"
>> bars on their shirts, but they do not use the orange (blaze) loops nor
>> the Varsity position patches.
>Collect, except there IS a set of 4 patches for the in-troop program. One for
>the Varsity squad leader, one for the Venture Crew Chief, one for Assistant
>Scoutmaster-Varsity & one for Assistant Scoutmaster-Venture.
>These are the only addition insignia for the in-troop program. The separate
>Varsity Scout Team wears the orange loops & hat & jacket & have separate
>Oh, the "V" patch can also be worn on the jacket (just like the school varsity
>patches- where they got the idea.)
>> 2. There can be a Varsity Team, which is a separate *unit* from the troop
>> (and there are several current pilot projects which draw older boys
>> from a bunch of troops to make teams), composed of older boys (14+).
>> The Team focuses on activities, including sports, "high adventure,"
>> camping, advancement, AND *service*, with more appeal to older boys.
>> Girls are allowed on appropriate activities (no overnighters?) with
>> enough female chaperons.
>> These groups can earn the "V" letter and use both sets of pamphlets
>> (Venture and Varsity) to plan activities. They wear the orange loops
>> and use the Varsity Scouts position patches. They are led by a "Coach"
>> instead of a Scoutmaster.
>> It seems (to me at least!) that the teams are VERY similar to a "varied-
>> interest" Explorer post and that there would be little crossover between
>> Varsity teams and these posts (although there could easily be crossover
>> with CAE and special interest posts!). Boys in Venture or Varsity patrols,
>> on the other hand, might be registered as Explorers and stay in these
>> patrols (when they are old enough for Explorers).
>> It also seems that these two types of units are suited to two particular
>> Varsity: Boys *only*, 14+.
>HOWEVER, girls CAN participate as 'guests' (or whatever they are called) with
>the in-troop Venture/Varsity program. Not sure about the separate Varsity
>> Varied-interest Explorers: Boys *and* girls, 15+.
>> The logic here seemingly is that a group of boys who did not want females
>> participating in all of their activities and/or who are not quite old
>> enough for Explorers would form a Varsity Team.
>> Do I have a basic understanding of the differences now?
>> Also: Would the Varsity Leader Basic Training be appropriate for Scouters
>> in a troop with a Varsity and/or Venture patrol or is it too strongly focused
>> towards leading a Varsity team?
>> Frank Boimare
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