Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Wed, 7 Apr 1993 12:26:18 CDT
Frank Boimare <SC0HASS@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU> writes:
(I am listening to the hunger pains of a sweetee that is sitting here
complaining of not getting mail from a LAN.....)
>So, if I understand this correctly...
>1. There can be a Varsity and/or Venture patrol (or whatever) *within* a
> troop. In this context, Venture focuses on "high adventure" and Varsity
> focuses on sports, but there are no real prohibitions to limit either
> group to the area of primary focus or prevent crossovers.
> The boys can start developing these patrols as early as 13 years old.
Or as young as 15 for the Venture Crew. The Troop, not the boys,
develops this program as options to the regular Troop program.
> These groups would normally use the Venture pamphlets for Venture
> activities and the Varsity (sports) pamphlets for Varsity activities.
> According to the 1991 _Insignia Guide_ (as I understand it), either
> patrol can earn the "V" to wear on their merit badge sashes and the
> appropriate pins. These boys would wear the "Venture" or "Varsity"
> bars on their shirts, but they do not use the orange (blaze) loops nor
> the Varsity position patches.
They don't have to use the Venture or the Varsity pamphlets for
program material...they can "use their resources" and develop their
own. As far as the shoulder loops are concerned, they *can* wear the
Blaze loops *if* that's the option of the Troop. THe shoulder loops
identify Varsity members only, however. They may also wear the
Varsity position patches if they so choose.
>2. There can be a Varsity Team, which is a separate *unit* from the troop
> (and there are several current pilot projects which draw older boys
> from a bunch of troops to make teams), composed of older boys (14+).
> The Team focuses on activities, including sports, "high adventure,"
> camping, advancement, AND *service*, with more appeal to older boys.
> Girls are allowed on appropriate activities (no overnighters?) with
> enough female chaperons.
Girls can also participate in the other program as well, and again you
are correct with the statement "no overnighters".
> These groups can earn the "V" letter and use both sets of pamphlets
> (Venture and Varsity) to plan activities. They wear the orange loops
> and use the Varsity Scouts position patches. They are led by a "Coach"
> instead of a Scoutmaster.
>It seems (to me at least!) that the teams are VERY similar to a "varied-
>interest" Explorer post and that there would be little crossover between
>Varsity teams and these posts (although there could easily be crossover
>with CAE and special interest posts!). Boys in Venture or Varsity patrols,
>on the other hand, might be registered as Explorers and stay in these
>patrols (when they are old enough for Explorers).
They are IDENTICAL to a "varied-interest" Post EXCEPT for the numbers.
Usaully, there are only 3-4 members of a Troop that are Varsity age
and perhaps that many of Venture age. They could spin off into a
varied-interest Post or even a Outdoor Explorer Post, but the
likelyhood of them wanting to (and the adult leadership wanting them
to) leave is rather slim.
They CAN however, become members of BOTH an Explorer Post AND a
Varsity Team at the same time.
>It also seems that these two types of units are suited to two particular
>Varsity: Boys *only*, 14+.
With females serving as "associates" of the members.
>Varied-interest Explorers: Boys *and* girls, 15+.
>The logic here seemingly is that a group of boys who did not want females
>participating in all of their activities and/or who are not quite old
>enough for Explorers would form a Varsity Team.
Or...parents that did not want their youth participating with females
or have religious/cultural/personal feelings against such things would
have an option.
>Do I have a basic understanding of the differences now?
>Also: Would the Varsity Leader Basic Training be appropriate for Scouters
>in a troop with a Varsity and/or Venture patrol or is it too strongly focused
>towards leading a Varsity team?
Yes, it sure will be appropriate for ALL Scouting leaders.
Mike L. Walton
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