Re: "Eve" and young men...
Kenneth C. Morgan (KCM112@PSUVM.BITNET)
Mon, 5 Apr 1993 10:43:00 EDT
>From: "Settummanque, the blackeagle" <WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET>
>Subject: Re: "Eve" and young men...
>The Venture Crew would as you stated, go from Mt. Hood to Canada, for
>example; while the Varsity Team could do the same except perhaps from
>Portland to Mt. Hood and back.
>The ONLY differences between the two are the scope of the activities
>(longer than two weeks for Venture; about a week for Varsity) and the
>age range of the two groups.
I've been doing alot of research on this, trying to start a venture crew in
my troop. The way I've read this from the Boy Scout Handbook and other
publications is WITHIN the troop, Venture is for high adventure camping,
hiking, etc. and Varsity is for sports. It is basically having a sports
team in the troop, to compete in competitions against other troops and the
There is also a program called Varsity Scouting meant for young men 14-18
yrs old that is high adventure outdoors, but it is done WITHOUT a troop.
That is, another organizatin would sponsor it and the boys are not necessarily
members of a Boy Scout troop. Is this what you meant?
>NEITHER is (and I feel personally that the BSA missed the boat on
>this!) an acceptable substitute for good programming on the part of
>the youth members and the adult members of the Troop. While you can
>"load up" on the "special opportunities" for older Scouts, they won't
>stick around long enough to take advantage of it without the proper
>grounding--and that comes from PROGRAM, not from anything else.
>Instead of giving us Varsity and Venture to play around with, the
>BSA's program team needed to give the Scoutmasters more tools to do a
>better job with programming!
I have to without question disagree with you. I consider both programs
valuable "tools" in providing a well rounded program. Venture takes the
skills a scout learned to the next level, challenging them and making them
become more adept in outdoor skills, leadership, and responsibility. I've
read complaintes that sports take kids out of scouts, well, Varsity brings
sports to the scouts.
The team/crew members can serve in the troop as Instructors and Guides for
the younger scouts. Teaching the skills that are so important in Scouting
and providing the neccesary program you mention above. What's a better way
of keeping the younger guys interested than SHOWING them that there is
something for them to do when they are older. They'll know about the Venture
and Varsity programs and will strive to be a part of it.
I am currently writing a summary for my Scoutmaster on how the Venture program
can be integrated with and be useful to the troop as a whole. I was going to
post it on rec.scouting, but if those who may not have access to it, I'd be
more than happy to post it here.
That's all I have to say now. I just wanted to make a few points.
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