RE: Training for Exploring
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Sun, 28 Mar 1993 15:54:05 CST
In reference to Explorer Leader training, (and in a followup to our
recent discourse on the usage of the "TRAINED" strip, Steve mentions
the ELI course in a nearby Council....
Steve Souza <76703.633@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
>Mike, I should have figured you'd catch that one. I was suggesting that ELI
>(a kind of Exploring Woodbadge) did qualify as Explorer training (not the
>only training, as I mentioned, but training none the less).
[ELI: Exploring Leadership Institute. Held first in the Western
Region and santioned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day
Saints (_the_ "Mormon" or LDS Church) in 1979. The course was adopted
by the Western Region, BSA as *the* official advanced course for
Exploring Leaders and trainers. In 1982, the Western Region held a
"mock course" for the National Exploring Committee and the National
professional staff associated with Exploring (the first "nation-wide"
ELI course) and the national professional staff turned their
collective noses down on the course as the "exploring equal to the Boy
Scout Woodbadge course". In 1984, National went as far as advising
local Councils in the Western Region that although they could not
"delete the course" from the Regional offerings, that those attending
the course would NOT be credited with attending an "advanced
Exploring leaders' training Course."
The Western Region, already pioneers in the development of Cub Day
Camp, Cub Leaders' Woodbadge, and several professional management
seminars, told national: "either put up or shut up: give us a
Exploring Advanced course or make ours the standard!!" In the
meantime, more than 1000 Exploring leaders in THREE regions (Western,
East Central, South Central) as well as others already certified by
National (like me) as "national Exploring Instructors" have attended
the courses held in Utah, Nevada, and California (and thrice at the
National Exploring Conferences).
The BSA came up with the Exploring Advanced Seminar in 1984 and
field-tested it in 1985 and released it to local Councils in 1987 (the
first course was done in the Transatlantic Council in the spring of
What's wrong with the ELI course? There are two things wrong with the
course: first, there's a HEAVY emphasis on the program as the LDS
church is conducted Exploring programs. Inately, there's nothing
wrong with the Church's program, but there are many that don't feel
all together confortable with a heavey dosage of "religion" in the
midst of "training".
Second, there's a lack of instruction about the contemporary Exploring
program (the one that emphasizes career exploring in specific areas)
and _this_ is the area that the National people have problems with.
The ELI course is structured around a "outdoor adventure post" because
in the LDS church, most if not ALL Exploring is done in those types of
Posts. I have worked on modifying the course so that it can be done
with all types of posts and ships, but the basis of the course and
its' success is closely tied to that outdoor slant (a-la BS
The other thing that ELI promoters (this person inclusive) has a
problem with National is with justifying the large (9-15 as opposed to
the 7-12 for a BS Woodbadge course) numof "staffers" for this he
course. It is justified because just like in an Explorer Post or
Ship, you have LOTS of committeemembers and consultants.
>The other reason for mentioning ELI was to bring to light that it seems the
>LDS Church in SLC plans to discontinue ELI... 80% of our Council's Exploring
>committee is ELI trained (including our Exploring DE, which is great) and
>have been considering hosting a version of ELAT (Explorer Leader Advanced
>Training) here in CA next year.
ELAT is the generic equal to ELI that Councils in the Western Region
are switching to..it is a combination of both ELI and the Exploring
Advanced Seminar. I've never been to a ELAT (haven't had the money or
time to do that), but from what I've heard about it, its a great
compromise for both.
Personally, I hope that somehow we can get ELI to be *the* advanced
course for Exploring. It is a great course, even with the drawbacks
mentioned. The course is sound, the staff members are great, and the
course syllabus and other materials are well-written and well-thought
>Stay tuned for details as they become available.
I will...please update us all, as there are several of us Exploring
types on this list (and lots more that we come in contact with!)
Mike L. Walton
National Exploring Instructor (et al.)
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