RE: "trained" for the job.
Settummanque, the blackeagle (WALTOML@WKUVX1.BITNET)
Fri, 26 Mar 1993 20:13:22 CST
Steve Souza <76703.633@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
>quoted From: "Nathan Brindle" NBRINDLE%INDYCMS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
>> Am I to conclude from what I have read over the last couple of days that:
>> 1. Completing Scoutmastership Fundamentals does not qualify me to wear
>> the Trained patch with my OA Chapter Advisor patch?
>Nathan, that's Correct... the 'trained' patch implicitly goes with whatever
>position patch you have on your uniform... therefor, if you are a SM and
>have been to SF, then you are a "trained SM". If you are an EA (Explorer
>Advisor) and have been to ELI (Explorer leadership Institute) or the
>Exploring Basic Training, then you are a "trained Exploring Advisor".
Wait a minute....ELI is ADVANCED TRAINING, not BASIC Training. You
don't get to go (or should not go!) to ELI or to the EAS (Exploring
Advanced Seminar) *unless* you've been a trained Exploring leader for
at least two years!
Training for the Explorer Advisor consists of the Fast Start and the
Explorer Leader BASIC course (and if you are a Sea Exploring leader,
the Sea Exploring BASIC course; if you are a Career Awareness
Exploring Advisor, the CAE Orientation is *your* "basic training".)
>with youth leadership positions, various other unit positions, etc. A CM or
>other Cub Leader can't wear the 'trained' pathc for attending anything
>besides CLBT, a Scout leader needs to go to SLBT, etc.
>> 2. As a member of the District Committee I should wear that patch to
>> Roundtable, as an ASM should wear that patch to troop meetings, and as OA
>> advisor should wear that patch to chapter and lodge functions?
>Most folks wear the position patch for the highest position in BSA that they
>hold... I'm on the Council's Exploring Committee, a Post COR, a Troop MC,
>and an OA Advisor... I wear the Council Committee patch.
>Most folks are also only (paid) registered for 1 position, so that should be
>the one you wear. (Normally the one you pay for, is the highest or most
>important one to you). I actually am only a multiple on two, and pay for
>two, but that's by choice.
I don't really feel that it *should be* anything except what you want
to be known as. Personally, I would rather have one of those
"registered Scouter" patches I've mentioned before. People like Mark
and myself, that do multiple jobs (registered or not!) in a local
Council should decide for themselves and not be limited to "the
highest position". Besides, what *is* the "highest position"?? A
Lodge Advisor *is* the highest advisor in the lodge, but also a member
of the Council's Camping and Outdoor subcommittee of the Program
Committee. A Council Commissioner represents herself to the entire
membership of the Council as such; but yet, she is *also* a member of
the Council's Executive Board (a "higher role or position"). A
Scoutmaster is also on the District Committee ( a "higher position")
but to him (and I agree!), the MOST IMPORTANT JOB he has is to work
with the youth of his (or her) unit!
So, saying that most people wear the "highest position" is kinda not
accurate. As Kathie noted, Nathan, you have the ultimate choice as to
which position patch you wear. The only bit of importance is (as I've
written earlier!) was that if you wear a position patch, please take
the training for it and wear the TRAINED strip as a symbol of your
Mike L. Walton
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