co-ed in USA (someday)
Steve Souza (76703.633@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Mon, 22 Mar 1993 17:18:59 EST
quoted From: Paul Russell PRUSSELL%IUBVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
> Why isn't BSA co-ed? Here's a sampling of the answers that I've heard
> over the past few years. I'm sure there are others.
> f. "If we change, we'll lose funding from some big donors."
> g. "The Girls Scouts won't cooperate."
> IMHO, item (f), if true, is probably the only valid objection to change,
> however, I have never seen or heard any evidence to support this
> statement. I suspect that item (g) may be true, but I don't think that we
> need their cooperation to expand our program. If GSUSA is meeting the
> needs of its members, it should have nothing to fear from a co-ed BSA.
Paul, I agree with your comments and want to add this tidbit..
There has been a consistant 'rumor' among the Scouting professionals for
many years about a proposed merger that never took place, here's how it came
Seems BSA was approached by the Camp Fire Girls group many years ago, and
asked if the two could merge into a co-ed Scouting program. BSA was willing
to consider this, but said they would need to check with GSUSA and offer the
merge to them first (though the GS group had never expressed interest in
this, it was deemed Politically Correct to at least ask them).
While BSA and GSUSA were taking their sweet time in talking about this, the
Camp Fire organization got tired of waiting for an answer from BSA, so, they
simply formed their own co-ed group and dropped the word "Girls" from their
name... Thus "Camp Fire Girls" became simply "Camp Fire" and started their
(event free) co-ed programs.
BSA has resisted all attempts since then to become co-ed except at the
Exploring level. I don't think it has hurt BSA too much, but it has hurt a
large number of girls who cannot find a good outdoor program in GSUSA and
cannot get into BSA (who has a much better volunteer control structure and
much better outdoor program). As many of my friends in the UK have expressed
when their program went co-ed several years ago, and many in Canada when
their program went co-ed (Regionally several years before they did
Nationally), there have been NO problems in integration, program, structure,
etc... the only 'problems' were with parents who were of the 'segregation'
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