Eagle Scout Application problems/Courses of action
Chris Haggerty, Sierra Vista, Arizona (CHAGGERTY@ARIZBPA.BITNET)
Thu, 18 Mar 1993 19:03:00 MST
This is my second try at a response. We have been having 70-80
degree weather here for over a week, but today it's been windy and
I lost my connection after working out some information for you.
As indicated, your best recourse is your Son's Boy Scout handbook,
if he has it and he had it signed at this board of review. FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS IMPORTANT, HERE IS AN
EXAMPLE OF WHY IT IS. You may also use your troop records.
According to the Advancement Guidelines "Each troop is responsible
for keeping its own records and reporting advancement to the local
council service center. ..."
The problems appears to have been caused by a very common error on
the part of us adults. When filling out the advancement sheets,
you fill in the date the advancement happened, not the date of the
court of honor or the date the advancement sheet is being
completed. REMEMBER, the date a rank is awarded IS THE DATE THE
BOARD OF REVIEW IS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED. (This includes Eagle.)
This error on the part of the adults should not be a major problem.
When there have been problems with dates here, the normal practice
is to verify what is correct. Again, TROOP RECORDS ARE THE SOURCE
OF THE COUNCIL RECORDS. So your council representative should have
no problem accepting troop records as evidence of the error. A
situation like Don's should not cause a problem for the youth, but
I would discuss proper usage and completion of the advancement
records with the adults.
Don, if the dates on the application are correct then all you
should have to do is show your district advancement chairman your
son's book or troop records to verify this date. If the date on
the application is the September date instead of the August date,
then you should complete a new application with the correct dates.
Do this with the knowledge of you district advancement chairman so
this person will be alert to the need to verify the date since it
is inconsistent with the date on the advancement report at the
council office. If you leave the September date on the application
and it gets sent to National, they will reject it. They seem to
check these things carefully.
For those interested, the two most common errors I have come across
on Eagle Scout applications are:
Requirement #4 six months of leadership while a LIFE SCOUT. For
some reason many scouts like to start with their first leadership
position and run out of room before they are listing a position
held while a Life Scout. Only positions held since becoming a life
Scout (beginning date is shown in Requirement 1, date of Life Scout
Board of Review) are relevant here.
Requirement #3, in particular when the scout has more than the 21
merit badges. In these cases, scouts may earn both Lifesaving and
Emergency Preparedness (as an example). Most the of the time
Emergency Preparedness is earned first while working on Star or
Life. Lifesaving comes latter after the scout has earned his life
rank. However, because Lifesaving sounds more impressive (to the
scout) it will be listed as the required merit badge and Emergency
Preparedness may not be listed at all (remember the young man can
only list 21 of his merit badges). What is wrong? When your
Council person or National looks at the application they are going
to see by the dates, that one of the required merit badges was
lacking for Star or Life and send it back to you.
For everyone's reference, there is an appeal process regarding the
Eagle Advancment. It may be requested when the Scoutmaster or
Troop Committee decides not to sign the Eagle Scout application.
It may also requested when a youth fails a Eagle Scout Board of
Reivew. The structure of the process is outlined in the
Advancement Guidelines, if someone needs more information I can get
it to you. Yes I have been through the process, and I do not
Don, if you have the Scout Book or troop records and the council or
district advancement person will not go along, then please let us know. It
would not be the first time people on this list have used BSA's literature
and information to educate Scouters.
Sierra Vista, Arizona
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City