Re: CPR for FIRST-AID and Life Saving MB
Jon D. Lyksett (jlykset@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU)
Wed, 3 Mar 1993 08:50:36 -0800
On Wed, 3 Mar 1993, Don Izard wrote:
> Just one more CPR question: A scout can work on the First Aid
> merit badge at 11 or 12 years old. BUT, isn't there a minimum
> age for the RED CROSS CPR certification? MY understanding is
> that a younger scout realy can't get CPR certified.
The Red Cross guideline to instructors is: Use your discretion as to
whether the CPR student can perform the skills properly. I've taught
groups of first year Webelos and had them all pass both the written and
the skills test with no problem, but have had to give retests to nurses
and other hospital personnel.
> I also
> seem to recall that full CPR certification is required for
> BSA Life guard.
The CPR required for BSA Lifeguard is COMMUNITY CPR. This includes CPR
for juvenile and pediatric victims. It is an eight hour course in and of
itself. (no First Aid).
> Perhaps the CPR certification issue should be seperate from the
> basic first aid skills in the First Aid merit badge, or maybe
> there should be some BSA EMT (Emergency medical technition) program
> like BSA life guard. (?) Thoughts? I think that it is important
> for a scout to learn the basic skills in first aid early. But
> if a young scout can not get a red cross CPR certificate, then
> it should be a seperate requirement, and not HALF train scouts
> in CPR that could cause a potential for problems if attempted,
> and NOT properly certified. (?)
I would personally, NEVER, repeat NEVER, teach CPR in less than a four
hour course. The Red Cross has a well developed, time tested curriculum
for getting the skills taught properly and efficiently. Why the BSA ever
put THREE hours in the First Aid merit badge requirements is beyond me.
Also, the transports that the BSA requires are outmoded and DANGEROUS.
When I counsel a merit badge candidate I go over them, then show him the
proper ways to do rescues, so he reduces the chances of injuring the
victim AND himself.
> for life guards at our town pools. The guy that does first aid
> is from the town Paramedics. But it seems that with out the
> RED CROSS card, they each want to RE-run the 3 hours of CPR, to
> make sure what THEY think is important is covered, and since they
> sign they card, each wants to make sure of each scouts knowlegde
> and skill. I can see their points, but the scouts don't!
So the solution is to teach the FOUR HOUR CPR COURSE at every opportunity!
I'm not comfortable with the liability of sending undertrained First
Aiders out into the community. Nor would I want someone trying to use
improper skills to try and save me or a loved one. I guess this goes back
to the way the Scouting program was back in the '30's, when the Scouts
were looked upon as a group of "readymen" able to help in an emergency.
(I've just been reading my Dad's old Scout Handbook and the contrasts are
PS I'll post the phone number (800) for Laerdal for those of you
interested in the $149.00 manikins as soon as I get my catalog back from
our Scout Executive. JL
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