Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Wed, 3 Mar 1993 10:17:42 CST
Guys and Gals!
The fuel issue is absolute. If ANY council is still (after almost 10
years) allowing the use of liquid fuels by scouts for any reason without
adult supervision, they will NOT be covered if there is an accident. Here
is your source guys -- and Bruce you were ABSOLUTELY right, that is the
Some 10 years ago National did indeed make such a blanket policy -- no
liquid fuels -- however, Scoutmasters and leaders across our nation knew to
ignore such policies and rules, and after several accidents - the rules
were altered to include "adult supervision". This, of course, lies all of
the responsibility on the adult leadership. Thus, if you want to be
absolutely safe in this matter, do not use liquid fuels !! Voila!! That
is what National has wanted for the past 10 years. Your safety and your
boys too ---
Resource: Guide to Safe Scouting - pg. 16 - part no. 10-212.
I have CAPITALIZED all national rules and policies that must be followed to
ensure the support of national in case of trouble. In the booklet, these
sections are in BOLD type.
Hope this helps -- and if your council has interpreted differently it is a
volunteer movement and OUR hide if trouble occurs -- if these rules are not
met, national and it's legal support is not there.
I have seen it happen.
Because serious accidents can happen when using gasoline in lanterns and
stoves and igniting fires with liquid starters, ADULT SUPERVISION IS
REQUIRED WHEN CHEMICAL FUELS ARE BEING USED FOR LIGHTING AND COOKING.
GUIDELINES FOR SAFELY USING CHEMICAL STOVES AND LANTERNS
1. Use compressed- or liquid-gas stoves or lanterns only with knowledgeable
adult supervision and in Scout facilities only where and when permitted.
(my note: most Scout facilities and national parks do not permit the use of
liquid fuels, and please note that Coleman fuel is not and never has been
2. Operate and maintain according to manufacturer's instructions included
with the stove or lantern.
3. STORE FUEL IN APPROVED CONTAINERS AND UNDER ADULT SUPERVISION. Keep all
chemical fuel containers away from hot stoves and campfires, and store
below 100 degrees F.
4. Let hot stoves and lantersn cool before changing cylinders of compressed
gases or refilling from bottles of liquid gas.
5. Refill liquid-gas stoves and lanterns a safe distance from any flames,
including other stoves, campfires, and personal smoking substances. A
commericial camp stove fuel should be used for safety and performance.
Pour through a filter funnel Recap both the device and the fuel container
6. NEVER FUEL A STOVE OR LANTERN INSIDE A CABIN; ALWAYS DO THIS OUTDOORS.
DO NOT OPERATE A STOVE OR LANTERN IN AN UNVENTILATED STRUCTURE. PROVIDE AT
LEAST TWO VENTILATION OPENINGS, ONE HIGH AND ONE LOW, TO PROVIDE OXYGEN AND
EXHAUST FOR LETHAL GASES. NEVER FUEL, IGNITE, OR OPERATE A STOVE OR LANTERN
IN A TENT.
7. Place the stove on a level, secure surface before operating. On snow,
place insulated support under the stove to prevent melting and tipping.
8. Periodically check fittings on compressed-gas stoves and on pressurized
liquid-gas stoves for leakage, using soap solution before lighting.
9. When lighting a stove, keep fuel bottles and extr cannisters well away.
Do not hover over the stove when lighting it. Keep your head and body to
one side. Open the stove valve quickly for two full turns and light
carefully, with head, fingers, and hands to the side of the burner. Then
10. Do not leave a lighted stove or lantern unattended.
11. Do not overload the stovetop with heavy pots or large frying pans. If
pots over 2 quarts are necessary, set up a separate grill with legs to hold
the pot, and place the stove under the grill.
12. Bring empty fuel containers home for disposal. Do not place in or near
fires. Empty fuel containers will explode if heated and should never be
put in fireplaces or with burnable trash.
Hope this helps -- if you need a copy faxed or snail mailed of the resource
document -- let me know.
p.s. I like having this stuff on my computer. Luckily I type quite
accurately at 120 wpm so it does not take much time.
Now -- if I could only find a computer keyboard to keep up with me!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City