Re: Following the rules (?)
Mark Wilson (mwilson@POLARIS.ORL.MMC.COM)
Thu, 25 Feb 1993 12:44:30 EST
> From: HOLMAN_JIM/OMGATE_OA@gate.us.ohio-state.edu
> You see, the pack he is in doesn't think
> it's fair to start him out in Webelos (where he belongs) because he
> hasn't earned his Wolf & Bear badges yet.
Sounds like a pack that needs to get some training, ASAP. All Cubs must earn
the Bobcat badge before starting any other advancement. Once they have done
that, the Cub Scout starts work on the rank appropriate for his school grade.
For a fourth or fifth grader that means the Webelos Badge.
>They figure he
> can do the whole Webelos program next year in the 5th grade.
It can be done, (you have to for a fifth grader new to Cub Scouts) but it isn't
easy, and in this case it's not needed.
> She says that their PackMaster
> (her words) says it is ok and that if there were a problem that the
> council wouldn't accept the advancement reports (I can't imagine that
> council examines cub advancement reports closely enough to catch an
> age/grade problem with a cub badge.)
You are right. With all the reports that come into council, they don't have time
to check each one against registration records, which is what they would have
to do to catch this type of problem. This is somethine that should be pointed
out to the District Advancement Chairperson. They should be checking the
district copy of the reports.
> My question is: how do I handle this kid's advancement when he
> transfers to us?
Start him where he is supposed to be in Webelos.
>I have never seen the
> Cubmaster at Roundtable or any other event.
That about figures. It is evident that there are no trained leaders there.
> He will be Webelos II age,
> but won't have done ANY Webelos activities & he will be so out of sync
> with the others that I don't see how he can do enough to get his
> Arrow of Light.
Arrow of Light can be done in 8 to 9 months if the Scout works hard and has
some good coaching. As I said before it isn't easy, but it can be done.
> The rest of the Webelos II's will have already completed
> ALL of the required badges, scout-related activities and will mostly
> be waiting on their 11th birthday or the AOL we do in April.
Why are they waiting for their 11th birthday? They can get AOL and graduate
to a troop as soon as they finish the requirements. The joining requirements
for Boy Scouts include:received the Arrow of Light, completed the fifth grade
or reached age 11. You should also schedule Arrow of Light ceremonies when the
need arises as you would any other rank. If the Webelos Scout chooses to stay
in the pack (maybe to finish the compass patch) thats up to him, but he should
receive his advancement as soon as he's earned it.
IMHO, the 2 year Webelos program is about 6 months too long. Most of the boys
I've seen complete AOL in 18 months or less, are tired of the Cub Program, and
want to move on around January of the second year. I'll be a Webelos den leader
next year (with my younger son) and I'm shooting for graduation in 18 months.
Overtrained and Overbooked
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City