Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:53:21 CST
The following can not possibly be actually correct, as national's computers
would have spit out your unit and rejected it. There are, of course,
requirements to have a unit. Each unit MUST have 1 committee chairman and
a minimum of 2 members of committee. Now, if your SAs (we have 2 letter
codes) function as part of the committee, that is your chairman's
decision. But somewhere, someone HAS to be registered in the 3 required
committee positions. It might be worth your time to see an actual printed
flat sheet on your unit to see who is registered as what. There are
training awards for all positions, but you MUST be registered in that
position for the correct tenure to earn them.
> Mark, a couple of (more) clarifications: In our troop, "committee member"
> is synonymous with "ASM". That's the way we've always done it. That is
> to say, all of our committee members are registered ASM's.
Right now the
> committee is trying to convince District that they should be able to get
> a special training set up just for them because the troop is constantly
> out on weekends and there is a religious restriction for some of the adults
> for working on the Sabbath. Personally I don't buy the argument because only
> one adult is in that situation and the troop is doing too much in the first
> place and <ought> to scale back. They have agreed, however, to view the
> Fast Start tape at the next committee meeting--a major concession. :)
You are right here - I have always maintained on my training teams,
orthodox Jewish trainers, as that insures we meet the strictest
restrictions with our courses. Looks like your "district training
committee" is not functioning in anywhere near an effective manner. It is
not unusual for BS leaders NOT to want to go to training, they always seem
to think they somehow know all the ins and outs of helping a boy grow to
his individual potential. Of course that is not true --- we don't even get
lessons on raising our own kids!
> Third, our UC <is> involved and is more hacked about this than I am. :)
> (He is also trained; I forgot, there are three of us.) He would have been
> at the last committee meeting--in fact, he asked me specifically to be sure
> I was there--but he ended up in the hospital. (He's OK) We have both been
> pushing Scoutmaster Fundamentals as hard as we can, with arguments both base
> (Quality Unit awards) and noble (we can't do our best for the boys if we're
> not trained). We have had (obviously) no luck.
In my 18 years of training experience with BSA, I would like to assure you
that you will win, ONLY if the course is done well and draws the people
attending into it. A dull course makes a dull trained leader.
> I will say also that the committee chairman sort of laughed off the entire
> idea of training with the comment, "They just want to get us trained so
> they can get us into Wood Badge." I felt that was sort of inappropriate...
> I haven't done Wood Badge but I am aware of what it is about and I have a
> great deal of respect for it. (I also intend to do it this year.)
Such a crime!!!! "get us into Wood Badge." Do they KNOW that the business
management seminars across the world are based on the first sylabus of our
wood badge? Do they know that if they ARE in business and attend any of
these, taking our Wood Badge course (advanced people management training)
will transfer very nicely into their "real" world and provide them the
momentum to climb that ladder?
"get us into Wood Badge." INDEED!!!! They should only be so lucky!
Woodbadge does NOT work for everyone, just as BSA is not for every boy.
Hang in there - you and your unit commissioner will gain ground a bit at a
time. But -- that's how you "eat an elephant!" bite by bite by bite!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City