Re: Canadian scouts OFFICIALY co-ed!!!
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Fri, 4 Dec 1992 14:58:42 CST
> On Fri, 4 Dec 1992 11:47:17 -0500 Paul Gerwitz said:
> >Why is it necessary for the USA to be compared to other countries ? Why
> >must we adopt other countries trends in scouts any more than we adopt their
> >governmental or social structures ?
--answer: It is NOT necessary nor even logical.
> >Wasn't this country established by people "running away" from the
> >European culture looking for something they could not find in their native
> >land ?
--answer: OR people who had been EXPELLED from their native country.
> Wasn't Boy Scouts invented in (or real close to) Europe?
--answer: PLEASE read anything. The Boy Scout program was started by Lord
Baden-Powell in ENGLAND. The history of the movement is VERY important if
you wish to understand what we do -- do read it -- you will find books and
books on our history -- go to ANY trading post, scout shop, library.
I have truly been too busy to enter this discussion, however, I will remind
you that in May 1991 at a Regional meeting, Ben Love (Chief Scout Executive
of BSA) stated the following (per my notes from that meeting):
BSA has spent two years investigating whether we should attempt to bo co-ed
and our committee has advised not to do so. The reasons are many, but the
major reason was a very huge uproar from GSUSA which ABSOLUTELY fought the
idea. The reason may have something to do with the 1972 change in the
Exploring program which brought that program into a co-ed program. At that
time to now female membership in GSUSA in the age groups involved has
dropped significantly. (So say GSUSA). They loudly, and absolutely oppose
any move on our part to go co-ed.
BSA tried with the new "Learning for Living" program to combine here too
with GSUSA, since boys and girls in the schools would be participating, and
the program is entirely separate from BSA. Again, they said NO!
Ben Love stated that there were many objections (many you have been reading
on this discussion) there were also some very strong points for co-ed. His
finishing statement was that we would not be co-ed in the near future.
Remember that all such changes takes a minimum of 5 years research to
Colors of our program ---- earlier discussion -- 1980 is when our first
MAJOR uniform change came in after some 40 years of staying pretty much the
At that time shoulder loops came in (as many countries use these) and our
uniforms became more like other uniforms internationally. This is also
when the "tab socks" went out. The color are and have been since as
Tabs to be worn on your uniform:
Orange - Varsity
Blue - Cub Scouting
Red - Boy Scouting
Green - Exploring
Silver - District
Gold - Regional and National (Boys on staff for the summer at Philmont are
part of the National staff and wear gold shoulder loops -- my sons loved
that as their Mom never got to wear gold!)
"Wear the color for the position in which you are functioning." pg. 36,
current Insignia Guide.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City