Re: Patch Police
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Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:39:20 CST
Michael Rogero Brown <michaelb@SUNRISE.CSE.FAU.EDU> writes:
>> Regarding Quality Unit patches, multiple, wearing of:
>> Maybe folks ought just to follow the regs and wear only the CURRENT one,
>Really? Try telling that to the people who violate this rule.
>Or how about the people who:
> Wear duplicate knots (mutiple religious youth award, scouters training/key on
> different background cloths).
You won't suppose, Mike, that they *could have* received this by a
Council that did NOT know that you only wear ONE of the award, would
In the old George Rogers Clark Council, there is a man that WILL NOT
take off his THREE Scouters' Key award knots...despite good-minded
attempts by knowledgable Scouters (including me) to tell him that he
can wear one with several devices attached.
His response : "Well, the Council presented them all to me, and gave
me the knots to wear...if they're gonna give me something to wear, I'm
going to wear it!"
> Wear the World Conservation Award where the World Crest goes (or even WITH th
> World Crest)
This is a NEW Change brought about by the demise of the World Crest as
a symbol of interaction internationally. Up until a few short years
ago, if you participated in a international activity (overseas or in
the USA), you got to wear the World Crest. This soon became a mark of
those military personnel and civilian diplomats that served Scouting
overseas as well as those few Scouts and Scouters that took part in a
international (or world) Jamboree. The WOSM has been pressuring the
BSA to use the World Crest similiar to the way the Girl Scouting
movement uses the World Badge....all nations having the same badge to
symbolize world unity. The BSA finally succumbed to this, and when
that happened, the World Crest was IMMEDIATELY presented to ALL Scouts
and Scouters (and rooked out all of those that spent time and money to
attend a international event).
At that same time, the BSA decided that its past practice of allowing
TWO Jamboree emblems (one world, one BSA national) to be worn
side-by-side was to end as well. Scouts and Scouters may now only
wear ONE Jamboree emblem centered on the right side of the chest.
Because the possiblility of most Scouts to participate in a
international activity was slim, the World Conservation Award was
authorized to be worn on the left side, in the place where the World
Crest was authorized. There *was* the possibility that Scouts could
have earned BOTH World Crest and World Conservation Awards, to which
BOTH could be placed on the left side, above the pocket and centered.
The World Conservation Award, a distinguished award to spur Scouts
and Cubs into caring about their environment, has now been shafted
back into its place as a "temporary" insignia, to be worn on the right
pocket. WHAT A ROOK!!!
There is that possibility, Mike, that they just did not know that the
policy had changed....
> Wear the Internation Participant Award (a 3in patch!) where the World Crest
That is stupidity in the highest....it sounds like someone didn't get
this person a World Crest or that he's (or she's) waging a one -person
protest against the BSA's policy (see above). Someone should quietly
tell this person that they're making themselves look foolish (and that
Scouts *see* more than they are told!)
> Kids who have no troop postition, but still wear the trained strip.
Again, Mike, don't fault the kid for not knowing...sometimes a little
education goes a long, long way.
> Adults who still wear patrol medallions (usually from a training course)
I still wear my Blue Beaver patrol medallion on my green jacket and
still wear my old, old (tattered) Eagle patrol medallion on the shirt
that I use to make Woodbadge and Eagle presentations with. I don't
see anything wrong with this, provided that the medallion is that, no
larger than the current ones. I *do* have a problem with Course
patches and "medallions" that are neither circular nor emblematic.
For the record, I also wear the old Southeast Region patches on
several of my shirts...in addition to a local Council patch on the
left. I am a regional volunteer...but I am registered with a local
Council. There's nothing wrong with this....you belong to a local
Council and unit first...everything else secondary (that is why the
shoulder loops for Area/Regional/National volunteers and professionals
are GOLD and not SILVER (remember, Silver denotes primary leadership;
gold denotes secondary or supporting leadership).
>Now, some violations I really don't care about. Things like a Area/Regional/
>National scouter wearing his home Council strip on his uniform, or District/
>Council scouters wearing a Regional patch. But the above violation always
Mike...all it takes is some education on the part of the
Commissioners's staff and those volunteers and professionals at the
local Council level. They make the policy as to what can be worn "in
harmony with National policies" at their level. They are the ones
that also have the responsibility to insure proper uniforming for
Even with education, as I mentioned above, there are some that refuse
to the simplest of modifications. Let them wear it...they will soon
find themselves stared at and by simple "group behavior" either
conform or not.
If they don't conform, there's nothing that can be done about it.
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