Re: Recruiting into Explorers
Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:39:21 PST
I started because Mike's comments about not sending the card needed to be
seconded. A half hour later, I guess I got a little long winded.
From: "Settummanque, the blackeagle (502)782-7992"
}Scouts and new members into her Ship. Exploring is a scary thing for
}many Scouters....particularily Boy Scouters. As we all know, the
}seniormost boys leave Scouting for Exploring, making my program the
}target for lots of stares and ome non-so-pleasant words between
}Advisor/Skipper and the Scouters, particularily narrow-minded
I was part of the Explorer program in th 70's. I knew then that it scared the
Girl Scout leaders. I hadn't realized the Boy Scout leaders were the same way.
}Great analogy, wrong expectations. Remember first that you are
}dealing with the same age group....14-21. You are also "encouraging"
}Varsity and Venture members with established programs to join this
}Ship. Scouts do NOT "graduate" to Exploring as we did in the past...
I think the over lap is the reason the Explorer program was designed to target
a different group than Scouts. I think the Varsity and Venture program is a
better approch to keeping old boys than the old Explorer program. When our
troop was visited by an [old] Explorer post, they would start by appologizing
for trying to steal our older boys.
}them more responsibiity (and exposure) than giving it to Explorers
}which 1) don't really care about advancement since the Exploring
}program doen not stress it enought; 2) are only there as
In the post I belonged to, it wasn't stressed at all. We only had two former
Boy Scouts. Neither of us completed our Eagle. Both of us had earned our Life
in different troops.
}....at the same time, the BEST printed materials are those that come
}from the POST or SHIP itself (and I have lots of examples of such
}things). The things that David is alluding to, however, is important:
}DON'T SAY "SCOUTING" (or my favorite, "Explorer Scouts"---I HATE
I think you answered you question (what's the matter with the national PR?).
No matter how good it is, it's generic. We always used pictures of our
activities. We had a variety of engineering and social activites.
}Wrong move here.....Most Councils have Exploring Roundtables, called
}Advisor/Skippers' Quarterly Meetings (Unlike Scouting, the Exploring
I don't know about now. But, in Detroit, in the 70's, the Cub Scouts and
Boy Scouts were divided into a number of districts. The Explorers were
divided into 3 areas (they were being renamed when I left.) The Sea
Explorers had a single council wide organization of their own.
>o From the Troops, or otherwise, build up a record of youth too young
> for Exploring. Send each and every prospective member in your area
> a 14th Birthday card, together with details of the program and
}WHOA!!!! I would want them to STAY in MY troop, than to leave it when
}they turn 14 (or finishes eighth grade)! As Scoutmaster, I would send
I have to repeat your WHOA!!!! If I was a Scoutmaster and my boys received
a birthday card like that, I would scream that my senior boys were being
raided. I think the [Scouting] District Executives would have a long talk
with the Sea Explorer Executive.
}different in its approach to youth, to the content of the program, to
}the way the program is carried out and the organization of the program
}in the local Council. While Exploring started out as a place for the
}older boy, today it is a place for the girl and boy of high school age
}to look at hoby or career areas and to do it in an environment that
}encourages the "changing of minds" and the "individual probing of what
Since the age groups overlap, I think the best thing is to make the programs
different. That way troops and posts/ships are competing for the same boys
in most cases.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City