Re: Two-deep leadership
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:37:13 CST
> Do you kick the kids back outside and lock up? Or do you stay and
> keep control of these kids, without any papers on them? (Not even
> an emergency phone number to call the parents back to fetch them!)
-- Just went through this as one of our MAJOR points at our Council Pow Wow
which was a session on Risk Management (new name for Health and Safety) and
taught by a district exec., a lawyer, and myself.
---If there are NOT two leaders, there is no meeting. In this case, it
seems a little common sense like locking the doors would help. Also,
parents are very much less likely to drop off their kids if the kids can
not go it; another part of your problem is the den leaders, they must
arrive a few minutes early not ten minutes late.
> 2 Now, on Thursdays, I have Cadettes followed by Boy Scouts with a 30
> minute break. There's a Brownie meeting also running which finishes
> 15 minutes after the Cadettes, so we let the other Cadette leader
> away early and still keep two-deep with the two small Troops, in
> adjoining rooms with the door open, until the Cadette meeting
> finishes. (Simply not a problem.)
---right. this works.
> The first Boy Scouts arrive up to 25 minutes early, but my girls
> aren't out until ten minutes late (when the last of the parents
> arrives). Yes, I'm dual registered, but should I be looking after
> both groups at the same time? (While trying to change uniforms?)
--no you should not, and neither the Girl Scouts nor the Boy Scouts would
approve. You need to keep the boys outside the meeting room and most
likely the building. Reschedule the start times of the meetings if
necessary, lock the doors. Update your parents, BSA does NOT stand for
Baby Sitters of America.
-- the REQUIREMENT is that there are two adults at all times, OR you send
the children home. You may have to do just that a time or two to get the
> 3 Worse still, from my side, is when I arrive early for my Cadette
> meeting (to do preparation) and _one_ of the girls suddenly shows up
> a full ten minutes before any other adults are even expected. Again,
> the lights were on, so the parent drove off. Two-deep leadership is
> simply not an option when there is no other adult available.
lock your doors - instruct your parents - there is NO babysitting here.
> This is the one that I have the greatest anguish over, since the boys
> are always in quantity. I can't run a GS meeting one-on-one, nor can
> I send the girl outside to wait (in the rain) for others to arrive.
> What should I do?
sorry, but you can and must have the girls leave - BSA would not be there
for you if something happened, fact.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City