Re: Nuts for Knots
Sleezer, Jim (JHS8@OSUVM1.BITNET)
Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:28:48 CST
On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:31:09 CST Bob Losee said:
>I thought I'd add my $0.02 worth.
>As a new Cubmaster, and a person into the adult side of scouting for
>about 9 months now, I've stressed to the other adult leaders that I
>want them to earn their awards. I want to be calling them forward
>at our pack meetings to give them these awards to show the other parents
>the committment of time and effort, and to show the boys that we too
>(as adults) are working on awards.
I vote with Bob. We recognized adults who completed training, etc.,
and the result was increased interest from other adults (some of whom did
not know that *help/training* was available). At the first meeting each
fall we also presented badges of office to all active adults. It helped
not-so-active parents understand that there were lots of people involved
and that by working together, there was a smaller load for each. An
unexpected benefit was an increase in adult uniforming. Several committee
members decided they needed a place to put their committee member patch
and I assured them it was not intended for civilian clothes.
>I believe this is important because we ask it of the boys. We say it's
>good for them and encourage them to earn and wear.
>As adults then we need to set an example. I know during our pack meetings
>I wear my Eagle scout medal hoping it will impress the boys. When they ask
>about what it is I tell them it's the highest award in scouting (I know
>there are palms and such but I like to keep this simple) and that if they
>continue, they too can earn this someday. In short it's a teaser to keep
>But I'd say there's a more important reason. There is often an
>underlying duality assumed here; there are the 0) boys and the 1) adults.
>The presumption is that they're somehow very different. The ideals of
>scouting should not be something for only the boys to think about when
>they are scouts, but rather a way of living a lifetime, as youth or adults.
I like this as long as we don't forget that the program is for the boys.
>For instance, there are many times I wish the adult leaders at our
>committee meetings would behave more like we ask our cubs to behave,
>or I wish the parents during Pine Wood Derby would follow the scout
Then tell them, politely of course. Some parents (and adult leaders)
think they are exempt from the *rules*. Letting them know that everyone
is expected to follow the same rules can work wonders.
I was amazed last week when I visited a troop and several adult leaders
were setting at a table telling jokes while the Scouts were trying to
present program. I said nothing at the time but mentioned it to one of
the leaders the next day. He didn't realize how disruptive their actions
were. I visited this week--the leaders actually paid some attention to
the program. And the boys were able to do a better job.
>Not only do I believe we should take the philosophy of
>scouting into our adult lives but I see no reason to not use many(most)
>of the methods of our youth program into adult scouting. If it works
>there why not as adults. Of course some adults may focus more on the
>award than the reason for earning it, just as many youth do. But in
>both cases I believe the hope is they've become better persons for
>Yours in Scouting,
>Bob Losee; Cubmaster; Pack 29; Cornhusker Council
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