Re: Knots or NOT
Bjarne Steensgaard (rusa@DIKU.DK)
Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:30:04 +0100
Mike Walton writes:
> I agree with you that BSA Scouts look like Christmas trees because we have
> MUCH MORE AWARDS than other nation's Scouts do. We have many more
> for advancement than Scouts from other nations and we have several different
> avenues (the Order of the Arrow, the aquatics awards, the Philmont treks,
> the leadership programs) for advanced work than Scouts from other nations.
As far as I understand, BSA is more or less based on advancement.
This is not so for scouting in many other countries. It seems to me
that Americans generally strive to get something, where many others
strive to achieve something. I personally am glad that we do not have
BSA style advancement in my scouting association.
> We all want to look the part of knowing what wer're doing, even if we
I personally don't feel that I need something to show what I know or
can. If there is an accident requiring first aid and I need help to
do that, then I don't start looking for scouts with a first aid merit
badge. The ones that know what to do will automatically step in and
help. I value the one that helps much higher than the one with the
badge. The one with the badge may even be the one with the least
qualifications. In the first aid situation, things are put in a life
and death frame, but the scenario could also be a poorly led troop
that needed help from the outside. The one with the trainer's
badge/award/knot/... may not be the best suited to deal with the
situation and the badge may prevent others from trying to help because
they think somebody qualifies is already taking care of the situation.
My uniform only has the required badges identifying my scouting
association, my council, and my unit. The only extra thing I have
considering putting on my uniform (but hav not put on yet) is the
patch from participation in the associations development project in
Nepal. Having the patch on the uniform could start a discussion of
our scouting associations involvement in development countries and
about the conditions that people in other countries have to live
under. This could be educating to many scouts and scouters. The
patch could in this way be useful to others. All other
patches/badges/awards/knots/... are seldom useful to others and are
mainly used to show of.
> Bottom line.....I don't need any stinkin' badges in order to go camping or
> hiking either....but it would help if I traveled that long a distance to get
> something tanigble that I can trade later on!
You seem to say that achieving is OK, but getting something for it is
better. I personally will rather have my memories and perhaps some
photos than I will have a badge!
a scout from Denmark
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City