Re: Cub Scout Religious Knot
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Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:05:31 CDT
Good morning everyone!
Finally, some "action" on the list...I was getting worried that I put
everyone asleep with my last entries about patch trading. Oh...about
the job search...its bothersome but I am still in there....
Okay...this is in reply to several entries about the "Cub Scout
Religions" knot (I have been following this thread on Rec. scouting
too, but our mailer won't allow posting replies to that list. So, if
Jim or someone else would be kind enough to forward this to the list,I
would really appreciate it. (at least they're discussing something of
The exact name of the award is the Cub Scout Religious Award Knot and
like many of you noted, there is also an Boy Scout Religious Award
Knot. It is the same square knot design....silver knot on a fully
embrodered purple background. This knot is worn by YOUTH members
(defined as Tiger Cubs, Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts and
Explorers) whom have completed requirements and was awarded one of 22
religious emblems by their church or faith AS A YOUTH MEMBER.
There is a separate award for adults...the square knot representation
for it is the inverse of the youth award....purple knot on a silver
(grey) background and silver border. These awards are based upon
service to a faith and can be presented generally to any adult in that
faith (although several have been presented to Scouters outside the
These awards are NOT BSA awards...the same God and Service Award can
be presented to leaders of 4-H, FFA, Girl Scouting, YMCA and other
youth serving organizations. Likewise, the youth awards are also NOT
the BSA's property, but that of the organization that is promoting the
awards. There are several national clearinghouses for those leaders
or youth interested in working toward a clearer understanding of their
faith by youth.
The BSA created the square knots after a large number of Catholic and
Protestant youth started earning the religious emblems for their faith
and wanted to wear some sort of representation for this achievement.
Now for the specific questions:
a) If a Cub Scout earned the God and Me Award, can he wear that award
on his Boy Scout uniform?? YES, only during Court of Honors or
other FORMAL occasions. He wears the Youth Religious Knot as
described above) with the Cub Scout program device centered in the
knot at all other times.
b) I have a Tiger Cub that earned the Catholic religious award. Now,
he's a WEBELOS Cub Scout and have earned the second award. When he
becomes a Boy Scout, how can he wear two awards??? When he becomes
a Boy Scout, he wears TWO program devices on the square knot...the
Tiger Cub one and the Cub Scout one, side by side on the square knot
(give them some space or they won't stay pinned down!).
c) What happens when he earns the Boy Scout award...does he wear
another knot? NO! He simply adds the Boy Scout program
devise to the square knot if he has earned a youth religious award
previously; otherwise, he wears the single square knot with NO program
device (since he is presently a Boy Scout).
d) Several religions have awards for older Boy Scouts and Explorers.
What is the proper wear of those awards on the square knot??
Remember that the knot is the representation of the actual award. He
would wear the youth knot with the approviate program device on it
(either the E device for Explorers or the Varsity or Boy Scout device
for Scouts....depending of course, where he earned the award).
e) When he becomes a Boy Scout, does he merely "reaffirms his faith"
and receive the Boy Scouting Award since he already did the work for
the award in the past?? NO! Each Award has its on set of
requirements including Boy Scout rank advancement that he must
complete in order to earn the award...there is also that time in which
to actually do the service and faith requirements. By the way, there
are booklets that describe the requirements exactly.
f) How about adults... what do we wear to signify that we have earned
the Youth awards?? We wear the SAME knot as the youth to show that
we have earned the award as a YOUTH. We place the approviate
device(s) on the knot to show in what program(s) we earned the youth
award in. When we receive the adult award(s) we can only have ONE
adult award (I have wrote Religious Relationships Service @ National
to ask how do those of us that were fortunate enough to have been
presented two or more different faith's awards.....the answer is "we
don't have the answer to that one....some faiths have lapel pins that
perhaps could be used...but others don't have that." The operative
answer is that we wear ONE square knot with NOTHING on it even if we
hold two or three awards from different faiths) displayed on the knot.
g) Name all of the knots that Cub Scouts can earn that can be worn on
the Boy Scout uniform: There is ONLY ONE Square knot that Cub
Scouts can EARN and wear on the Boy Scout uniform...and that is the
YOUTH RELIGIOUS EMBLEM KNOT. The other awards all have to be
presented: The Honor Medal, the Heroism Medal, the Merit Medal, and
the Hornaday Badge.
Note that I did NOT mention the Arrow of Light! The Arrow of Light
Square Knot is ONLY worn by ADULTS....the youth of Scouting wear the
Arrow of Light on the Scouting uniforms in the approviate places
(on the Boy Scouting and Exploring field uniforms at the bottom left
pocket....on the Cub Scout uniform it is worn above the left pocket.)
h) Where did you get the source for these answers?? As a person
with several youth and adult square knots (lots, believe me!), I have
to know...but I also rely on the Insignia Control Guide of the BSA,
available at the local Council office as well as the Scoutmasters'
Handbook which has full-color illustrations of all of the current
square knot emblems. Various Cub Scouting books also has the same
information except the full-color illustrations.
I hope that I've added to the discussions instead of confusing you
more (*broad grin*)
(Settummanque, the blackeagle... ) )
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