[waltoml@WKUVX1.BITNET: Re: OA Ceremonies]
Paul Russell (ad980@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU)
Tue, 22 Sep 1992 12:18:48 -0400
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From: waltoml@WKUVX1.BITNET ("Settummanque, the blackeagle 782-7992")
Subject: Re: OA Ceremonies
Date: Mon, 21 Sep
That's dangerous. If the Lodge decides to go to a mall, for example, to
put one a demostration, and some trouble-maker decides to make it an issue,
the lodge and the local council could be in for some lengthly discussions--
at the least, the Area Director will be breathing down the Scout/Council
I don't like the decision. It seemed to me to have been made in a vaccumm
and without thought about the impact upon local Lodges that like you
mentioned, have no "promienent" (excuse the spelling!) Native/First
in the area. I sincerly hope that National OA Committee re-thinks this
policy through before they stick to it.
To me, face paint and the research and development of dances was some of the
best parts of the OA. When I placed that white and orange face paint
my brown-toned skin, it for a brief momment, made me forget about being
or a "outsider". It made me consious about what I was doing, whom I was
representing and why I was doing it.
In other words, it brought that Obligation back to me again in full view.
This is personal to you, but feel free to copy it to the list if you feel to
Thanks to Mike Walton and Mike Nielson for their responses.
I haven't been active in the lodge for the past couple of
years, but have recently renewed my ties, after being 'shamed'
by a lodge brother in my Wood Badge Patrol.
I will bring up the issue again, with the Adviser, and new
Lodge Officers at the Vigil in a few weeks. If I don't get
a positive response, I'll proceed to the Scout Exec.
In particular, since Cuyahoga Lodge 17 is hosting the Area
Conclave next spring, we should be particularly aware of
I do agree with Mike Walton, however, that the ruling is a
poor one. Better to contact Native Americans in the area, and
do it Right and with respect, and Learn something in the process.
We in Cleveland, just this past weekend did have a demonstration
by Native Americans at the Cleveland Indians game over the use of
the "CHIEF WAHOO" symbol by the team. That is a case of a very
poor choice of symbols. The team is, however, NOT responding to
the request to change.
Paul Wolf (Manitto Lennowak , Maker of Men)
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City