Re: Policy info request
Jon D. Lyksett (jlykset@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU)
Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:39:51 -0700
That's the rub, Kathie. It seems that our ASE is holding the threat of
*no insurance* over us and using our unfamiliarity with the supervision
reuqirement to stop the activity. I'll get copies of the materials you
quoted and have them on hand when I go to talk to him about this. I guess
he pulled this *COPE* stuff out of the air.
On Mon, 14 Sep 1992, Kathie Cerveny wrote:
> > Recently our Assistant Scout Executive gave us a National Publication on
> > Rock Climbing and Rapelling.
> The official policy is:
> ROCK CLIMBING and RAPPELLING
> "It is important to distinguish between rock climbing (ascending or
> traversing a steep rock face) and rappelling (desc3ending with a controlled
> slide down a rope). Both activities require special considerations of
> supervision, equipment, facilities, and location. Safety must be paramount
> so that participants are not exposed to unreasonable risk. Standards
> perpared with the assistance of highly qualified rock climbing authorities
> should be adhered to in conducting a rock climbing/rappelling program."
> REFERENCE: Above from: Guide to Safe Scouting, A Unit Leader's Guide for
> Current Policies and procedures to Safe Acitivities, 1991 printing, no.
> REFERENCE: Outdoor Skills
> INSTRUCTION: Climbing/Rappelling. No. 3566.
> > Here's the hitch: No COPE Course instructor in our council, nor any of
> > the seven nearby councils. COPE certification only taught once a year and
> > that's at Philmont. No alternate requirements for supervision (ie,
> > longtime experience, demonstrated proficiency, etc). No help from the
> > council in finding solutions to this problem.
> ---COPE creditation does NOT apply.
> COPE is not the criteria for safety on the rocks, ropes, etc. However, do
> note it says further in the references given (with part numbers) just
> exactly how precise you must be.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City