RE: Eagle to silver palm: 3 months?
(no name) ((no email))
Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:53:18 CDT
Letssee...I agree with you that the BS requirements and the Scout Handbook both
state what you say. However, a closer look at the requirements state that FIVE
merit badges (not 15 or 20) is needed for each palm and that there has to be
a three month separation between the two.
In the 1992 edition of the BSA's Advancement Guidelines there is a grid which
shows the requirements for each advancement. The DuPage Area Council's
Scouters' Handbook also has this grid, but the one shown on page 28 of the
Advancement Guidelines Book is the most accurate and as the cover of this
publication states "..this supersedes all previous editions. The material in
this book contains current policies, procedures and other information related
to advancement. Previous editions and printings should be discarded"
Eagle Palms require the following:
* tenure of three months after earning Eagle Award or after earning
* showing Scouting spirit
* Five more beyond those required for Eagle or last palm ( this
statement implies that five were used for the preceeding palm).
Merit badges earned any time since becoming a Boy Scout may be
used for this requirement.
* satisfactory effort at demostrating leadership
* Board of Review
* Scoutmaster conference before each Eagle Palm.
Therefore, one will have to earn the Bronze Palm (which requires five merit
badges), wait the three months and then earn the Gold Palm (five more or ten
total post-Eagle) and wait again three months then earn the Silver Palm (five
more or fifteen post-Eagle) and wait...........
I agree with you that the requirements are somewhat vague, but the requirements
are rooted in history of the advancement and the policies used since the Palms
were created as ongoing advancement.
Yes, you are also correct that a Scout may receive the Eagle Scout Award AND
the Bronze Palm (and even a Gold Palm, depending on when the Court of Honor
is conducted) at the same Court of Honor. This is possible because as all
Eagles know, your tenure as a Eagle Scout starts not when the award was
received (July 18th, 1992); rather when the Board of Review was successfully
completed (March 6th, 1992). Therefore, on July 18th, Johnny Jones *can*
receive the Eagle Scout Award AND the Bronze Palm (for the first five merit
badges post-Eagle) at the same time at the same Court of Honor.
There have been Courts of Honor that I have been in attendance at where
because of mailing and delays due to military moves, the Eagle Scout Award was
presented eight months AFTER the Board of Review at a Eagle Court of Honor.
Although in this case, no palms were awarded (the young man was 18.5), if he
was 16 or 15, (or younger) he could possibly have had awarded the Bronze and
Gold Palms at the same Court of Honor.....DEPENDENT UPON HIS EARNING THEM
FOLLOWING THE STATED REQUIREMENTS>
Again, Brian...The Eagle Scout Palms *is* advancement. Therefore, Scouts must
earn them in order. It is NOT a "award for staying in Scouting past Eagle".
It does have requirements which, like ALL Boy Scouting advancement, MUST
be earned BEFORE the Scout turns 18.
That is the most up-to-date references that I have here. If anyone else has
anything else more current, please let me know!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City