Re: Explorers (was beavers)
or blackeagle ("Settummanque)
Thu, 25 Jun 1992 01:56:00 EDT
Subj: RE: Explorers (was beavers)
(from Kathie's comments....)
}d. Also unlike Mike, we do require the Scout uniform, and indeed in most
}councils in the US, we do strongly recommend the uniform. After all, it IS
}one of th methods by which we deliver our program. This situation puts me
}in mind of a district executive some 12 years ago, who said to the Council
}Exploring Division (for boys and girls 14 to 21), "Do NOT stress uniforming
}in Exploring, the kids do not want it." Followed almost immediately with,
}"The strongest Exploring units in our council are a) law enforcement; b)
}medical; and c) fire. (All requiring uniforms.) I rest my case.
Indeed, you are right, Kathie. The most popular Explorer Posts in our
Councils are those three areas, plus outdoor (or "High Adventure") posts.
All of those posts, AS WELL AS *ALL* Explorer Posts and Ships require SOME
SORT OF IDENTITY ITEM (Exploring's paralance is the DDI, the Distictive
Dress Identity...its what makes MY Outdoor Post unique from Terri's Outdoor
Post.....) as part of the requirement to have a post/ship (and that DDI in
many cases are special teeshirts provided by the chartered partner organization
or developed and "blessed" by the chartered partner). The Quality Unit
application calls for this to happen as well as many local Council policies.
}I was an explorer from 71 to 76. The last three years I was active at the
}council level (Detroit Area). I remember 4 very active posts. One was a
}police post (20 members - police uniform). One was a general interest post
}(15 members - old explorer uniform). One was an engineering post (50 members
}- no uniform). And, one was sponsored by a radio station (30 members - no
Rick, as a former Explorer during that same period of time (and a little
longer...) I can remember the emergence of several DDIs for particular posts.
Most Posts that are active in some sort of way promote their program by the
uses of some special identifier that makes them stand out from the rest of
the pack. For example, the Explorers Club here uses special teeshirts that
were made several years back as their DDI, while the Bluegrass Scouting
Alliance Club post uses the new version of the Exploring uniforms with a
special black and white neckerchief from England.
}I don't remember any medical or fire posts except for a post that was
}sponsored by a police & fire department. The general interest posts were
}supported by the Scouting division rather than the Explorer division.
Many posts are "supported" by the Scouting division (I think you are saying
that DEs rather than Exploring Executives and District Commissioners' Staffs
rather than Exploring Service Teams support the post....) as a "numbers"
game to assist in many cases new DEs or ADEs (assistants). This assures
that with some growth, the DE has experience with the organization and
extension of the Exploring program.
}Having a uniform makes sense for some posts. Other posts worked very well
}with out them. The one thing in common with all those posts (with the
}possible exception of the general interest post) was they received a lot of
}support for their sponsoring institution. Something I haven't seen in a lot
Having some sort of uniform identity helps the Post AND the chartered
partner as well.....it gets the chartered partner's name right out there.
EKU's BGSA Post, for example, has a specially made CSP with the campus
depicted in seven colors...and the crest and flag of the school as well
as the name...you think that EKU gets lots of credit??? Ask them!!!
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(I believe these were Kathie's notes...)
}refused to let BSA try it. However -- I personally believe we will HAVE to
}sooner or later, and that the GSA program and it's people in their National
}Headquarters now have some time to improve the program they offer. We do
}The Girl Scout program is quite dependent on the troop. My sisters' troops
}did a lot of camping and had a program that was a lot like the Boy Scout
}troop I was in. (They had a lot of the same leaders.) My daughter's troop
}is very active also. But, they have never been out "under canvas".
}have co-ed Exploring since 1972, and according to GSA our program has
}seriously harmed their older girl program. I can actually see why. After
}Explorers admitted girls as participants for two years before that. The post
}I joined admitted girls the year before I joined. I was told the reason for
}making them full members was quite a few girls were registering as members
}anyway. (Just put B. Smith; there wasn't a space to indicate sex.)
Lightning is going on here,,,so I have to cut this short. Will finish this
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City