Firestone Scout Reservation
(no name) ((no email))
Mon, 8 Jun 1992 19:44:00 MST
Mas and Others,
This does not surprise me, I will explain in minute. What does surprise
me and sadden me is that they found a loop hole in the contract for
donation to BSA from Firestone.
As general history for those who may not be aware of the games councils
play, L.A. is a super example. A few years back L.A. went deep in debt
(despite all the Hollywood glitz to help support and raise money). They
started back on a sounder financial planning program, but I am almost sure
Cabrillo Beach put them back into debt. Their fund raising for this
Aquatic Camp in San Pedro never materialize as expected. Nor is the camp
100% BSA, any group may reserve a program and weekend or week. It is
however a "SHOW CASE". Olympic hopefuls are part of the group which
staffs this camp. Very Costly camp all told (and this comes from a Red
Cross WSI who is very pro aqutic activities).
A few years back L.A. Council sold their other Camp Circle X to the Santa
Monica Conservation Consortium. The real deal here, they wanted a right of
way through the camp for a trail, BSA found a way to trick them into buying
the whole camp. Mostly for the money. Most scouters on the West Side
were upset by that sale, we used Circle X a lot and it was more rual than
If Firestone is sold or put out of operation then that will leave L.A. with
Lake Arrowhead Camps (rates OK in my book, nothing special about this camp)
and Cabrillo Beach. Lake Arrowhead Camps are a long trip for most of the
Units in the L.A. Basin. Cabrillo Beach requires reservations in advance.
Seems we could always just pack up and go on short notice to either Circle
X or Firestone.
What L.A. has in mind is probably money. I know developers have been after
the land around Firestone for quite some time. If you want to put a stop
to it, then start a save Firestone Campaign. To bring real presure agains
the board and the Executive, have people write and put their money where
their mouths are. A letter could include statements such as we have heard
about the plans for Firstone Camp and we are upset. Part of the money we
give each year to Family Finance Campaign is to help support the campes.
However, since you seem determine to sell off all the Camps (First Circle
X, now Firestone), we do not see any reason to continue to contribute to
If nothing else, a lot of letters coming in with this kind of proposed
action should at least bring a reaction. Maybe even save your camp and in
the long run help the family finance.
By the way, I know the camping Director for L.A. I would trust that man
about as far as I could throw him (remember I had back surgery for two
ruptured disks about 2.5 months ago). He has been know to tell the truth,
but sometimes leaves parts out. Verify anything he tells you.
Sierra Vista, Arizona
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City