Re: Sexual orientation issue ...
Kathie Cerveny (kathie@DELTA.EECS.NWU.EDU)
Thu, 5 Mar 1992 15:05:53 CST
> To Frank and anyone who read his last mailing,
> First of all, I am not gay. To be gay and be a leader would mean I'd have
> to have lied to get in. That would clearly go against the values of scouting.
> My last two postings were in defense of those who are excluded based
> on this factor, and because I remain curious about the basis of this
> But I'll take my questions elsewhere. This forum isn't appropriate.
> Paul Parry
Do not know what happened while I was away from my office for the past two
hours - but obviously your question still has not been answered.
As I understand it Paul, you wanted to know who and by what authority the
decisions (as stated in my last, very lengthy transmission) were made.
ANSWER: The Executive Board of the National Council has the absolut
"--full power tointerpret the Rules and Regulations and Bylaws---" of BSA.
Your reference is:
Charter Bylaws - Article III. The Executive Board - Section 1.
Per this publication (Charter Bylaws) and the Official Rules and
Regulations of BSA - the Executive Board (a volunteer committee) has the
full and absolute power to determine what the "rules and regulations" and
the "requirements for leadership and membership" will be and if they will
be changed. They have, over the years since 1908 been changed a number of
times. Especially noteworthy is the position of Cubmaster which was
originally to be held by a woman, changed to a male position, and then in
1972 (I think) changed back to either.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City
In reading the two above documents, I also found the source for the
citizenship requirement ---- the statement is made over and over for the
respective leadership positions that --" is to be a United States citizen
Here is the actual citizenship requirement:
Service Within the United States
Clause 1. Individuals serving in any officialrelationship with the Boy
Scouts of America shall subscribe to the statement of religious principle,
as presecribed in the Bylaws, and the Scout Oath and Law. They shall
either be citizens of the United States or shall legally declare intention
to become a citizen of the United States (unless the position qualification
stipulates citizenship as a specific requirement of registration, e.g.
Charter Organization Representative.)
Clause 2. No adult alien, visiting or resident, shall be registered or
enrolled in any capacity in Scouting, with the exception that adults from
other countries legally resident in the United States may be enrolled as
unit Scouters at the discretion of the Corporation and pursuant to specific
recommendations from the national Scout associations (where such
associations exist) of the countries involved.
Each adult so registered or enrolled shall take a modified form of the
Oath, Promise, Pledge, or Code, pledging to respect and obey the laws of
the country in which the individual is living. This individual will not be
required to pledge allegiance to the flag and Government of the United
Service Outside the United States
Clause 3. At the discretion of the Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of
America, and under such rules and regulations as it may prescribe,
commissions or certificates of membership as Scouters may be issued to
citizens serving in a country or territory under the control of the United
Hope the above information has helped a bit.
Chicago Area Council