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Mon, 16 Dec 1991 18:53:00 MST
John, Woody and other interested parties.
Mike made a lot of good comments. Pay attention to his foot locker
comment. A scout is trustworthy, but there is always at least one bad
apple. If you leave something that could be consider (or not considered)
to have value available or not available, someone may take the opportunity
to steal it. It the training camp (long before we even left for the
Jamboree in 1969), I had my region 7 neckerchief slide stolen. I did not
know it's value. On the train from Chicago to Idaho, while everyone was
suppose to be eating breakfast, my pulman room was entered (no locks on
doors, but the door was closed) and a neckerchief was stolen. Please do
not give anyone the chance to steal your things. It is sad that behavior
like this can be found rampant at Jamborees, however, it is a reality.
Better to be prepared!
I went to the 1969 Jamboree when I was 13 years old. Despite the above, I
had a GREAT TIME. I paid for over half of the trip with earnings from my
newspaper route. Back then this was less than $500 (which was a lot back
then I think.) My parents paid the rest and bought the uniforms. (Lucky
One item that most younger or first time scouts do not take enough of are
patches. I would even recommend that your troop or council print special
patches. If the cost is too high, there is an alternative. Make silk
screen patches. In mass, this can be done rather cheaply by the scouts
themselves. By having the reduced value on the cost of the patch, the
scouts then do not feel hindered to giving them out as friendship tokens.
Taking lots of council strips is also a good idea. These are popular
trading items. You can also make your own silk screen T-shirts. If you
want more information on the silk screen process let me know. I will send
Mikes comments about taking items from your area is also very good. I came
home with cotton and peanut seads. Wooden nickles, pins, post cards, you
name it someone brought it along and was giving or trading it out.
In 1973 I was on the O-A Service Corp (as it was spelled on the shoulder
patch). At Jamboree East we worked 8-12 hours a day. Usually about eight.
We arrived several days before the Jamboree and left several days after.
I do not remember being there a week before the Jamboree as Mike indicated,
but then he has more recent experience. At Jamobree West they worked them
around 12 hours a day (I think it was a staff shortage that caused that).
If you want to spend time with your son at the Jamboree while you are on
staff, do not get your expecatations too high. For that matter as an adult
leader, remember you will have a lot of responsiblity. Normally one adult
has to be in camp at all times (including campfires). I recall one
assistant who was told to take a hike at the Jamboree. He had his family
staying at a nearby hotel and was trying to make this a family vacation.
The Scoutmaster got fed up and sent him on his way. I was 13 at the time
and this action made an impression on me.
I guess the Scoutmaster felt if the adult was not going to do his job,
he would be better off knowing this for sure.
I have spoken with people who have worked on commisary staff. They did not
like it too much. First you have to get the food ready before Breakfast
and then accept items back after breakfast. Then Lunch and Dinner. Very
little time to really get off and see the events. My impression of staff
positions at Jamborees is that they beleive you are there to work and work
they will give you. Be forwarned! (If that is what you want to do, do it.
I had a great time on the O-A Service Corps and would do it again if I
could again create the right circumstanes.)
In 1977 (the rain fest Jamboree) I drove out for the day. I spent the day
seeting the sights and getting wet. I was not as lucky as Mike and
friends, but then I had to return to work on Monday! I returned Saturday
night since finding a place to camp was hard and besides I would just be
wet and misable all night. (I left Detroit at 1:00am Sat, arrive at the
site about 9:00 am, got home Sun AM at 2:am).
I have enjoyed all four of the Jamborees I have attened or visted. I would
recommend them to any scout. I beleive thirteen is a good age to go since
the youth should still be somewhat enthusiatic about scouting. Another two
years and the interest is in High School and girls.
Another reason why 13 is good, because you will be 15 when the World
Jamboree comes around. I think that is a good age for a World Jamboree.
Most active scouts start showing some maturity at a level which would make
them fit in well at an International Jamboree.
So start saving your nickles and dimes!
1969 Jamboree Idaho
1973 Jamboree East, O-A service Corps
1974 Pan-American Jamboree, Bogota, Colombia
1977 Jamboree visitor
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City